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- are we talking only about stock image sites here? Seems to me that different kinds of sites... even different kinds of stock sites... may have different kinds targeting priorities, depending on the type of art and the market.
Hi Robert, thanks for your thoughts. My website in particular, is mobile art, our artists create themes for mobile phones.
- depending on the above, what are you targeting, beyond, say, [stock keyword]?... The artist's name? The image subject matter? The photographic genre? If we're going beyond stock sites, are we talking about an art gallery name?... or perhaps even an artist's commercial services?
We target mainly upload name + brand + theme. I realise this is different to stock image websites, but they were the closest example of websites that are image heavy, that most people will have some experience with.
We have galleries of themes, sorted by brand, model, category etc, as well as individual artists galleries.
- how does Panda react to a page that contains an image above the fold with the description to a blind art aficionado below?
Up until last night, when I made a design change (at users request), we had a couple of sentences before the preview of the theme, which consisted of 1. A breakdown of stats i.e This theme was uploaded on January 19th to the Abstract category, it has 50,000 views and 5,000 downloads and has received 50 likes. Then the users own description, which can vary from a couple of words, to several paragraphs.
We're working with our members, to encourage them to add more descriptive descriptions. Were also editing the really short ones and letting the member know what we've done and why. However we have a few hundred thousand uploads to get through.
Now the paragraph is shorter and below the image. Members complained that the chunk of text, pushed their previews below the fold.
how does Google respond to a collection of images that aren't thematically connected?
We keep the themes as well organised as possible, they are organised by brand, model, and category. There are also tags which group them together, but since being hit by Panda, I have noindex, followed the pages, as they need some work to prevent duplicate content.
if you want to avoid image search, are you essentially throwing in the towel?
Our web traffic is high, 25,000 unique visitors a day pre panda and 15,000 since being caught in a refresh. Image search traffic is none existant. I'm working on improving that, by renaming all of the images, to give them more context.
There's also schema data. SE's might find this information delicious in regards to their "knowledge graph".
Hi Panthro, we had Schema data, but as Google didn't use it, we dropped it recently. However, I will likely add it back, since the intro of the knowledge graph.
Depends if they are your images or not..?
Hi Leosghost, the images are previews of the themes, which are created by my members.
If not your images..ask your artists / uploaders to give you a short text description of between 50 and 250 words ..tell them you may "edit"/ "rewrite" slightly..and ( if you think it is feasible to do so ) that you will let them see the edited / revised version before it goes live..
This is something we're trying, so far we've seen no positive effects. Many members are playing along nicely, others continue to upload 1 or 2 word descriptions, which we edit before going live.
As I said, we completely avoided Panda. Then in late December we upgraded our CMS, which introduced duplicate content bugs, such as 56 urls all showing our homepage, every thread in our forum that has multi pages, each page is seen as a new thread. On the next refresh in January, we were hit.
So while I do believe the reasons we were hit, is largely because of the duplicate content issues, I'm always striving to find ways to improve the website, it's content, my users experience and improve Googles perception of the website and content.
Thanks so much to everybody who's replied. Hopefully my answers give you a better idea of my website.