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Manual Spam Penalty Revoked... time frame to wait?

     
3:59 am on Mar 19, 2012 (gmt 0)

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How long does it take after google sends you a notice that it has revoked a spam penalty before you see your site restored? What's the time frame (best to worst) to wait? Anyone have first hand experience?
7:45 am on Mar 19, 2012 (gmt 0)

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It could be ages...the best thing to do is to make a new site and move on...put old one on wait and don't waste time.
12:31 pm on Mar 19, 2012 (gmt 0)

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you mean how much time after G says it lifted, removed, the penalty?
i'd say 1-2 weeks
1:07 pm on Mar 19, 2012 (gmt 0)

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Recovery time after the penalty is removed is different in different cases - depending on how severe Google feels the spam infraction was and the overall history of the site. I've seen everything from instantaneous to 90 days and I've heard that sometimes is can be longer than 90 days.
1:14 pm on Mar 19, 2012 (gmt 0)

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was this after a reconsideration request ?
1:51 pm on Mar 19, 2012 (gmt 0)

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Yes, in the cases I am personally familiar with.
2:07 pm on Mar 19, 2012 (gmt 0)

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Even after the penalty is lifted, the site might not ever return to its old rankings due to changes in the algorithm in the meantime, as well as new data collected on user behavior.
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Yes, this refers to a reconsideration request that google Revokes a spam penalty (removes the manual penalty). We believe the spam came when the site was hacked, as the penalty occured very shortly after the hacking. Did not even know it was hacked for quite a while. I wondered how long it takes for the manual penalty revoke takes before you see your ranking again. From what people have posted here, sounds like 2 weeks to 90 days. So one should not panic if nothing has happened in 2 days?
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no, do not panic in this case
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Ok, its now been a month since google has revoked the spam penalty. I see absolutely no change in ranking (everything is in the same place), so I believe the manual penalty was never lifted. Is it possible that google forgot to flip the switch even though they sent out a notice that they did?

Has anyone waited more than a month for the revoked penalty to reverse? This is very strange and frustrating.
1:19 am on Apr 14, 2012 (gmt 0)

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It took 1 week for me in the one instance I got a site back.

Has Googlebot returned and re-crawled the site? Any errors in WMT?
2:04 am on Apr 14, 2012 (gmt 0)

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Google never stopped crawling, even under penalty. All of my search terms were and still are on page 5 or 6. Even the domain name (without the .com) is on page 6. Will check, but there were not many errors last time I checked.
2:58 am on Apr 14, 2012 (gmt 0)

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@vphoner as ted said earlier, it can be as long as 90 days or even longer in some cases. So perhaps you have 2 more months to wait.
3:32 am on Apr 14, 2012 (gmt 0)

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Did you remove any backlinks as part of the process of reconsideration? Or Google could have possibly discounted many of the links that were previous giving you your rank.
2:39 am on Apr 15, 2012 (gmt 0)

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No, did not remove links. Penalty occurred after site was hacked into.
6:10 pm on Apr 15, 2012 (gmt 0)

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Was that a hack affecting multiple sites or accounts with your host on a shared IP?
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@vphoner have you seen any changes in the webmaster external links and search query data since the time penalty was revoked?
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I have my own managed server, so not a shared IP as far as I know. What kind of changes were you talking about in external links? I am still only getting about 5-7 google queries a day (versus 700-1000 before the penalty). Search results still on page 5 and 6. No change. Frustrating as you would hope to improve after penalty revoked.
6:33 pm on Apr 20, 2012 (gmt 0)

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That's a shame... Do keep us updated please.
11:34 pm on May 17, 2012 (gmt 0)

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Its now 2 months since the manual penalty "was revoked" and my domain name if searched on is still on page 6 or 7. No change. If your domain name in quotes without the .com is still on page 6, I have been told this is usually a manual penalty.

Because of this, I sent another reconsideration request, this time asking google to check to see that the penalty was actually removed and that I did not just get a note saying it was. After all, it was a manual penalty and must be manually removed. Mistakes can happen.
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I got another "Spam Penalty Revoked" notice, but this time, I am noticing the first improvement in a year. So maybe they forgot to revoke the penalty three months ago when I got the first notice that they had revoked it. I believe that today I will see clicks at about 6% of normal (up from less than 1% that I experienced for the entire last 12 months).

I hope that since this is only day 1, I will see further improvement in the coming days and months. At least thats what people posted here, that it takes a while to regain your rankings once a spam penalty is revoked. Hope this note gives others hope to get their organic rankings back. It took a year so far for me.
12:40 am on June 21, 2012 (gmt 0)

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thats what people posted here, that it takes a while to regain your rankings once a spam penalty is revoked.

Google's John Mueller has made some similar comments over on Google's own forums, so I'd say you have good reason to hold out hope.
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Right. Well the good thing is that I saw some if not small improvement. As I saw nothing for a year, so I know something has changed. Good to hear that other forums say that it will take a while to get back your clicks. At least we are going in the right direction.
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I had my ranking ability for a single keyword snipped manually on a new(ish) site and when I asked for reconsideration, given that the keyword was my sites main topic and the fact I knew they had done it due to an obvious side effect which I pointed out looked rather silly, I knew they had fixed the issue before they told me. The traffic returned instantly.
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@vphoner, how did it work out eventually?
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I've been struggling with this on one site also. It's been 6 weeks since penalty revoked and no return of rankings, which were very good for a decade. Another reinclusion verified that there is no manual penalty. The only thing it shows up for is an exact match for the domain name which is a unique phrase. Any ideas?
9:23 pm on July 24, 2012 (gmt 0)

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Ok, here is an update. Its been a month since the manual spam penalty was actually revoked. As stated, I had to contact them twice, since the first time, the penalty was not revoked as they stated.

Before the penalty, I was getting 700-1000 google clicks per day.

After the penalty, I was getting 7 to 10 clicks per day.

Today, 1 month after the revoking of the penalty I am getting about
100 clicks per day.

Still far from where I would like to be. I have not seen much improvement since the first week. Hoping that as some have stated, it can take several months to regain your pre-penalty status. So after 1 month, I guess I should just continue to be patient?

I guess what we want to know, is how long it could take to regain all your former clicks. Of course algorithms could be sabotaging your clicks at this point.
9:56 pm on July 24, 2012 (gmt 0)

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I would like to know this too. I have had experience with one site where it took about a month for the traffic to pick up and rankings to return. I have now apparently had a 'manual spam action' revoked just in these past few days and haven't really seen the return to rankings I was hoping for. New content ranks well and traffic is picking up a bit but not like what it used to be. I feel it is still very early days for me and perhaps things take even longer than just a month in some cases.
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If you BMW and you get caught using sophisticated cloaking spam, you back in the index instantaneously. If you a small Mom and Pop business with some inadvertent hidden text on only one of your pages, you back in 30 days after you fix and file a reconsider request.
7:33 am on July 25, 2012 (gmt 0)

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The question is how long after the penalty is revoked, not how long after requesting reconsideration.
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