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TBPR 7/10 homepage TBPR 0/10 daughter pages, how?

         

Mark_A

9:19 am on Oct 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

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I am just checking out a site I want to get an article published on and I notice that the homepage has a TBPR 7/10 but the pages on which my article would be placed only has a TBPR 0/10 that is not greyed out, but white and it says PR = 0 ...

I checked to see if there was any nofollow on the links to the daughter page, there seems not to be, I looked at their robots.txt and it seems innocuous.

How otherwise could they have engineered this?

And what a stingy organisation not to pass any PR to contributing parties!

wheel

11:16 am on Oct 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

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"they" probably didn't engineer this at all. Google does this kind of thing all the time, Toolbar pagerank doesn't flow like you think it does anymore. There are plenty of exceptions these days where inner pages show PR 0. In other words, don't worry about it.

FranticFish

1:22 pm on Oct 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

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I see this most often on directories and article sites - and far too often to my mind to be a glitch in the toolbar.

It's always said 'lack of quality' to me personally.

Perhaps the PR for the homepage doesn't come from lots of links but just one or two links, and very recent ones (i.e. rent a high PR link to sell a load yourself until the toolbar updates again).

Perhaps Google is voting the inner pages down because they have near-duplicate or generic content.

I stress it's only a hunch. But it seems to me that (for example) a decent site with a PR4 homepage will have at least PR3 second-tier, PR2 third tier etc.

If all links from the home page are PR0 or PR grey then I'd investigate that site's link profile in more depth.

As I said, I have nothing to back this up other than a feeling, so take with a pinch of salt.

MLHmptn

6:31 pm on Oct 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Don't worry about the TBPR. Worry more about relevancy from the inbound linking page. Just because you don't see TBPR it doesn't mean the website has 0 PR. Remember Google is only showing you what they want you to see.

Mark_A

7:20 am on Oct 6, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Hi all, thanks for the responses.

The site in question is an industry body with 150,000 members. I just checked the homepage and it is showing an astounding TBPR 9/10 and google is showing 1,500 inward links.

I was basically very keen to get an article featured there because of the TBPR but it seems that may not be passed on for some reason.

There are however logical common sense reasons to get an article published there as many of the members are target customers so we will be going ahead in any case.

johnnie

10:30 am on Oct 6, 2010 (gmt 0)

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I regularly encounter this situation in clients and it usually has to do with a CMS-required 302 redirect from example.com to example.com/home. Whilst this keeps the vanity URL in the SERPs, it completely botches the flow of link value to internal pages.

Robert Charlton

11:00 pm on Oct 6, 2010 (gmt 0)

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FranticFish describes my general feelings about gray-barred pages pretty well. Some additional thoughts....

The site in question is an industry body with 150,000 members.

I've observed in various industries that Google will often gray-bar the member listing pages, particularly if they're directory style pages. I don't remember having seen white-bars on these before.

Directories and pages that have a lot of links and not much other text tend to get gray-barred, I feel, because... if they are selling links, listings, legit memberships, etc... Google doesn't want a displayed TBPR to make them attractive to link or listing buyers.

Often, but not always, these pages only have generic text, like company names and cookie-cutter descriptions, which I'm assuming make them less valuable as linking pages.

Very often, business directory sites are form or search-driven, so the listings aren't SE friendly anyway. You might see if you can find some unique text on one of the listing pages, put it in quotes, and see if the page shows up in Google.