Obtaining Google search data, eg top 50,000 search terms etc?

[snoopy1122]

Does anyone know of a source for Google keyword data such as lists of the top 50,000 search terms and the like.

I've seen similar services such as Wordtracker but they seem to be based on small search engines, dogpile etc. Is there anyone selling lists such as this based on Google data?

Thanks!

[tedster]

Hello snoopy1122, and welcome to the forums.

As you've probably discovered by searching, there are some people who claim to be selling lists of the top "whatever" keywords based on Adsense cost, but that's not search volume. Google doesn't expose this kind of volume data in any way that I know of, so I'd be wary of anyone selling such a list.

[HuskyPup]

Keyword data I don't know however most searched for is in Zeitgeist, I suppose.

[tedster]

Right - and the Google Zeitgest data is about the strongest upward trends, not absolute strength of search terms.

[snoopy1122]

Thanks guys, so in terms of getting a list of say the top 50,000 keywords by popularity something like wordtracker is about the only option? (ie data based on smaller search engines)

[tedster]

Yes, and I doubt that it's going to be very different at that scale.

There are several paid keyword services available, and you'll want to consider how they gather their data (some use ISP clickstream data to enhance their results, for instance) and understand how they combine longer searches into shorter phrases, too. They are all targeted toward PPC users, so if you have an organic purpose YMMV.

[FranticFish]

For the biggest terms on the web I think a service like WordTracker would still be useful.

N.B. I'm not affiliated or associated in any way - in fact I had a sub that I cancelled because their dataset is too small (a fraction of a percent) to be of use to most of the bricks and mortar businesses I work with.

But I'd imagine that the biggest terms that get searched on in the most places would show up in their graph. Just bear in mind that their demographic (which last I checked was meta-search and a small UK ISP/portal) might not reflect the overall web user demographic, and any over-estimations can be waaaaaaay out because they have to multiply up their numbers to estimate demand.

[Robert Charlton]

...any over-estimations can be waaaaaaay out because they have to multiply up their numbers to estimate demand.

Also, in general, many searches on which there is commercial pressure are skewed upwards because of webmasters checking their positions twenty times a day, which leads to overestimates on these queries.

WordTracker, which uses non-mainstream sources, is actually less prone to this than say, Overture was, because with Overture the positions were on the search engine providing the data.

Google has the AdWords Preview Tool...

[adwords.google.com...]

...which undoubtedly helps reduce skewing by advertisers, but I'd bet not completely... maybe not even substantially.

Since the errors on WordTracker do get multiplied up, if you see a great many searches reported for very specific queries, like [red widgets and widget repair denver], you should probably disregard those.

While Google may reveal Trends, Zeitgeist, Insight etc, I'm sure they take a great many steps to prevent anyone from getting their hands on lists of thousands of terms that could be dropped into a database. Hitwise is in the business of selling data, but I doubt that they'd release a top 50,000 list to anyone. I can only think of a few uses for such a list, and it's not likely any of the data providers would want to encourage those.

[Lorel]

If you want to see which of a group of related words is the most popular and the trend over the last year, Google insight is a good tool to use.