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You can lose ranking if others copy you

         

McMohan

10:19 am on Apr 1, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Case Highlights -

1. A site runs smoothly for over a year with good ranks in Google.
2. Someone copies the content of a page and posts it on many high traffic/high PR portals such as free classifieds and review sites.
3. Ranks for that page drop in Google, while ranks for other pages remain.
4. We contact those portals individually and ask them to remove the content, which they do.
5. Ranks for this page comes back within a week.

At the time, I did think it might just be a coincidence, after all my site had that content before other portals copied it. But, I wasn't as much confident as before.

A new case -
1. I am asked to review a site, that in spite of being an authority in its space, ranks very low, while ranks in Yahoo/Bing consistently in the first page for majority of keywords.
2. I check to see if its content was copied, since I find nothing else wrong. Yes, in fact it has given its content to many major/high PR review portals and content aggregators. Many of the ranks in the first page refer to this site, while this site itself ranks in 100s and 200s.

Now, having been through a similar experience, I tend to think this site is a victim of copied content (not plagiarism) and it is practically impossible to get other sites to remove content since there are hundreds of them. Rewriting seems to be the only option, but a tedious one, since there are hundreds of pages.

My 2 questions are -
1. Do you think it just can't happen, since Google says there is almost nothing one can do to harm your ranks. Has that "almost" given them enough room to excuse themselves out of a pretty nasty situation?
2. Should this website go the length of rewriting their entire content or is there a easier way out?

Tank you

tedster

8:53 pm on Jul 2, 2010 (gmt 0)

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So if a site submits content via WMT and they are first to do so they they "should" be the original writers

So simple and direct. I wonder why things don't go that way so often.

I agree that many websites may not be doing this. But if they do, it does seem to be a no-brainer to make this a most important factor.

enigma1

9:04 am on Jul 3, 2010 (gmt 0)

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how can Google determine which source is original

WMT or from the site they crawl and find it first perhaps? It will give a chance to webmasters because they can expose the content to the spiders first (given a way) and then to the public. And they won't worry about the scrappers because if this is abused it can go through a DMCA and get resolved the hard way. (see the earlier post here by TheMadScientist)

The way it is now, based on PR, it removes incentives for original authors to create and post new content. Plus it makes the use of black hat SEO techniques very attractive. Like write/copy code to modify the content often, adding or removing words/sentences gradually, introducing or correcting spelling mistakes all these automatically to make the spiders think the content is updated constantly.

So the current process detriments the value of the spiders top search results and this is becoming more and more obvious from what we see.

walrus

1:09 pm on Jul 3, 2010 (gmt 0)

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I made an attempt to get this issue in the spotlight but it got lost in the shuffle.

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