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For the last few weeks in my niche I've been seeing sites that occupy position #6 disappear (particularly toward the end of the week) in and out of the SERPs.
[edited by: tedster at 4:44 am (utc) on Sep. 2, 2009]
For the last few weeks in my niche I've been seeing sites that occupy position #6 disappear (particularly toward the end of the week) in and out of the SERPs.
Interesting... Perfect timing actually to the question...
when are the caffeine results going live?
lol, was gonna post -
"When all the Goog employees get back from summer vacations to make sure the Position #6 Bug doesn't happen like last time."
What Changes did a Super Searchers have in SERPs due to caffeine.
I have just noticed a few of my ranking drop, could this be the caffine update?
It could be. Please see the other Caffeine thread [webmasterworld.com]
One other observation is for a site I've often written - it was the first yo-yo I ever saw. It had stabilized in the top 5, as high as #2. Now it fell back to page two for the first time in many weeks. We'll see if it caught the yo-yo again.
(For reference, this is a major corporation whose brand would be near top-of-mind for their marketplace - lots of print and broadcast ads for years, and most people in the US could sing their TV jingle.)
For the last few weeks in my niche I've been seeing sites that occupy position #6 disappear (particularly toward the end of the week) in and out of the SERPs.
Seen that for quite a while (six months) in my areas. It exhibits the exact same pattern Adwords would give to those advertising M-F.
Position #4 is almost as good, for example, when a site suddenly pops in there, only to be replaced by a Universal Search result for a bit, and then to come back.
It seems there's an entire infrastructure behind the positions. They are getting to be more fluid, but they sure aren't a traditional ladder of search results, especially when you get below #3
Remember the Position 6 bug? Google may have fixed that specific bug, but position 6 itself is a fascinating spot to watch.Position #4 is almost as good, for example, when a site suddenly pops in there, only to be replaced by a Universal Search result for a bit, and then to come back.
It seems there's an entire infrastructure behind the positions. They are getting to be more fluid, but they sure aren't a traditional ladder of search results, especially when you get below #3
This is really an interesting point to me tedster... I actually think the most fascinating thing about G is it's an ongoing 'live test' of software... Can you imagine?
I mean seriously, one flaw or 'glitch' or difference is viewable to how many people a day? It's really mind boggling when you think about it for a minute for a minute or two...
Sometimes I wonder how much revenue they could lose in an hour because of a difference in the results that changes user behavior even a little bit?
I also get different SERPs for german ä=ae and french é=e which Google treated the same since today.
I have seen this before, not sure why it happens but it did stop after a few days.
Is this Google going through the website and making changes or is it just DC's playing aroung with me?
[edited by: tedster at 4:16 pm (utc) on Sep. 11, 2009]
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The site is 6 years old and although it was not #1 for any good keyword we usually had about 8000 long tail keyword referals every day, now we hardly get 800...
The first thing that comes to my mind is some kind of linking problem has hurt your site's trust level - possibly your outbound links. Have you checked to see if there was a server hack to your site that hid some links to bad neighborhoods, for instance?
The site allows visitors to add their own content (mostly comments, but also pics and links) and we check every single content added, everyday. It's a really time consuming task but we do it carefully. And no, there are no outbound links to bad neighborhoods nor any server hack (as far as we can know).
Three months ago we changed the template of all our sites, and we 301'd every single page to the new one. All the 301 were to the same domain as the original, something like "entry.asp?id=2" to "content.asp?id=2".
Once we did the migration, Google began its dance, and it seemed that every domain has its own different music. We saw the yo-yo effect in all the sites (with diff periods of highs and lows for each one) but the two oldest and with bigger trust range didn't notice any traffic change.
It really didn't bother us much, because those sites with the yo yo effect where the less important for us. But then, on 11/9 our highest earning website felt down to the ground. Is it a yo yo effect? We don't know yet. If it is, it comes with about 3 months of delay, and the coincidence in time with the changes in Google's is too much to be just... coincidence.
I have noticed that home pages are cropping up quaite a bit, can this be a sign of site authority?
I have noticed that home pages are cropping up quaite a bit, can this be a sign of site authority?
Do you mean the homepage is showing up for a keyword when an inner page was showing?
Its pretty hard to separate seasonal versus algo variation- especially given the turbulance over the summer has meant we cannot establish a base line.
Our rankings have improved on what tedster called elsewhere "fat bellies" (nice term, BTW)
Yes, the home page is coming up for many keywords
I have noticed over the past 3 weeks that one of my sites is all of a sudden ranking top 10 for a very competitive term for half a day then dissapearing from .co.uk dc's.
week 1 had kw1
week 2 had kw2
and today was week 3 which had kw3 appearing.
Anyone else noticed this?
