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7:11 am on Jan 6, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I have a current site that's been around for awhile and ranked quite well, mostly due to good content and not my SEO skills (I never did much seo stuff, honestly)... but I recently started a new site and it's been forever since I've thought about promoting a new site.

What are the best ways to get indexed in Google? I don't just want to "sit around and wait" for Google to pick it up through a few random links.

Does joining Adsense or submitting a Sitemap make google index you faster?

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Adsense makes no difference, but a sitemap may help.

I think there are two key issues; the second is a few non-random links from quality sites.

But the key is the content itself:

Plan the structure of the site before going live, to ensure that you aren't tinkering with it over the vital first few weeks.

Start with quality, focussed pages, with relevant, coherent and unique titles and meta descriptions.

Ensure that your site navigation is *perfect*, to avoid spiders having an early sulk. In particular, use robots.txt to avoid (or at least minimise) duplicate machine-made URLs - if you use a cms, be sure the set up is a good as it can be, but remember that (as I write) there is not one single cms program that is capable of being *really* SE friendly.

Do the housekeeping: 301 from non-www to www (or vice versa if you are kewl); avoid any internal links to /index.html (use '/' or URL).

And ensure your content is (a) unique and (b) interesting.

Please note that it is not entirely coincidental that almost all of the above suggestions will make your site better for visitors, too!

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Social bookmarking usually does the trick for me. Post several of your key pages (don't spam) on digg and the googlebot will find you before you can say 'googleblot'
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Thanks for all the tips!

what's the purpose of avoiding /index.html links?

It is difficult to get good links sometimes for a new site, because we aren't even in Google yet and no one's heard of us.

I've heard it is better for Google to find you than for you to submit, that's why I have not gone and submitted the site to google officially.

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www.example.com is the domain name, and the most powerful URL of your site. External links (even if you ask otherwise), will usually be to that URL.

SEs index URLs, not sites or pages, so the use of both URLs can divide your page rank in half.

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Wow, I submitted one page to Digg; The problem is, when I search for my domain, the Digg page comes up-- but my site doesn't!
Why would Google index just the Digg page and not my site? Or maybe I just haven't given it enough time (this happened this morning)
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May be sandbox effect? Happens very often with new websites. My website has been in the sandbox for almost a year already :(
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My website has been in the sandbox for almost a year already :(

You have another problem...I suggest you get someone else to look at it.

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Why would my site be sandboxed? I did not submit to google, and in the past when I did web design for others, I never had a site that didn't get indexed within a few weeks...

Of course I may just be impatient with my new site, it's only been online for maybe 4 days (and I have a few links, one page on Digg, and I did add some content to Wikipedia and a link, but those are all nofollow).

But why would the page about it on Digg come up in a search for my site, but not my site? Wouldn't Google have indexed my site since it found that page?

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But why would the page about it on Digg come up in a search for my site

Because Digg is much older. You're right, 4 days is much too soon to be concerned. Google really puts new sites through intensive checking these days.

You still may see what some of us call the "honeymoon rankings", where really good rankings show up for a while for new sites, and then they go away. That is usually followed by a slow climb to a more stable ranking that often takes months.

it's been forever since I've thought about promoting a new site

Welcome to the new, changed Google. This is the way things are today.

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Yes, HuskyPup, after website got sandboxed I attributed it to small amount of incoming links and poor SEO. Now I understand that links growth rate was very fast. Also, I realised after reading this forum that all pages are heavily over-optimised, so recently I removed over-optimisation everywhere, so hopefully google will change their view about my website.

Also, I'm about to post my site for review, so hopefully will receive good advices re SEO.

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uhwebs, unfortunately sandbox is a common thing nowadays and not always under webmaster control...
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It's not a problem, I just won't worry about it for now and work on making more unique/interesting content.
I'm already getting visits from a few links and so far visitor response is positive, so that's a good sign!
Even if I do get sandboxed I'm sure the site will overcome that eventually with good content.
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Yes, you are right. I would also suggest to read more about sandbox, seems there are ways to avoid getting there - the key to this is everything should be natural and certainly looks like you are doing it this way.
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Try this thread:

Filters exist - the Sandbox doesn't. How to build Trust. [webmasterworld.com]

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Well, I got indexed this morning. Looks like I was just being impatient. Now to rise in the rankings! :)
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Hello;

TO get index really fast (1 or 2 days) :
Make an external link from a web site with a pagerank of 5 or 6.

Cheers.

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Consider buying an old domain rather than starting a new one from scratch. You'll probably find one that suits, and Google will pick it up much quicker if it has a history!
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You said you have a well ranked site that has been around for a while. When I create a new site, I simply put a text link qt the bottom of my 3 oldest, most frequently updated pages (unless you closely track your logs and know which pages are googlebotted the most frequently, in which case use the highest ranked one which is the most visited.). I also have Google sitemaps on this site, so I run the sitemap creator. The new site almost always gets indexed within 3 days or less.
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I'd have to second the fact that Social Media is an excellent avenue for quick indexing. A few strategically placed links and within 24-48 hours the ball starts rolling.

Full page advertising on a trusted site will also get your arse indexed real quick!

I'm also going to go out on a limb and say that using the Google Toolbar and other available tools will assist in indexing to some level. I've seen Google find pages that shouldn't have been found and then realized that the TB was on during the viewing of those pages. Nothing concrete but the timeframes sure do coincide.

Certain PR websites are still providing quality juice to the recipients.

Certain PR Fellows (of the professional type) are lurking about and can easily get you noticed in the right places. Look for those with tenure in this area.

There is a very simple and quick way to do this. Take your primary search phrase and do an "exact phrase search" in your favorite SE. Take those first 50-100 search results and you have your "primary" starting point on where to begin your trek on obtaining visibility for a newly launched site. It's a primal marketing strategy that works wonders. ;)

You might even want to take those first 50-100 search results and cull them further to those who have RSS Feeds.

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I dont even have a sitemap, why should I google uses robots to spider the net and all my sites always get indexed, if I add a new page it will be on Google within 3 days.

If you want to see you site/page on the same day or next day add it to digg.

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ma.gnolia.com works well for submitting a link to a root domain. Seems to encourage your site to get crawled.

Also don't discount submitting your sitemap to msn and yahoo. Slurp (yahoo's bot) is a little bit retarded and won't index your site quickly like msnbot and googlebot will, but still worth your 2 mins of effort.

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Some site get indexed very quickly. Other day I saw something as follows for #1 result:
Title
Description
http://example.com - 22 minutes ago

The site in question has PR5 and not a news site, but domain was registered in 1998. May be Google using trust factor here ...
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I have found that the fastest way to get your crawl rate up (eg I have a few sites at 10 pages/sec) is to submit a sitemap large enough to warrant such fast indexing.
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I have found that earning a link from a few relevant sites that have already been established in Google SERPs can accelerate getting into the index. It's a matter of getting Google to trust your new site, and that's one way to build up trust :)
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A link from DMOZ gets a site indexed really quickly. Usually within a couple of days.
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Temporary stick a link to it from your most popular page you currently have. Popular pages are crawed at least once a day, once found it indexed in within a day or two.

Though from an SEO stand point. Your first and every link should have simular set of keywords on these pages as you have within your website.

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A link from DMOZ gets a site indexed really quickly. Usually within a couple of days.

Ah, a little humor injected into the topic, I like that. :)

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A link from DMOZ gets a site indexed really quickly. Usually within a couple of days.

Awesome. Ahh, party like it's 1998.

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Haha - Ok, don't believe me. Fewer submissions for me to review that way ;)

Social bookmarking is probably the most effective way to get it done quickly. DMOZ is nice, but you have to wait until an editor gets around to including you.

[edited by: SEOMike at 8:02 pm (utc) on Jan. 8, 2009]

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