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Is there a threshold for every page, where google says, no more visitors for today - better to control the serps in a way, that this treshold will be reached but not crossed.
I know it sounds silly, but who knows what google processes in their algo?
[edited by: tedster at 12:10 am (utc) on Oct. 18, 2008]
thanx for replying. I Didnīt know about these threats.
So what iīm wondering about, is, that keywords change from day to day and still this threshold will be reached.
Although I look in google suggestions for keywords, google says take "xuy" for keyword this will be 200.000 search a month.
My page is first for "xuy" but the 200.000 is not even reached closly. What I figured out is, that if a keyword gets to run run very smooth on google search, the next day ( or even hours later ) it is gone.
What i am saying is, keyword1 runs very well - > the treshold seems to be reached very fast - then all of the sudden this keyword is lost in google serps - threshold will be reach very slowly now and will never be crossed. I see this behaviour on 3 pages in a very competitive area.
Is is some rotation for sales sites? Everyone should have a pice of the pie?
"Everybody should get a piece of the pie" is not really the aim of natural search results and shouldn't be Google's aim either - I can't see the reason. Apple.com should always rank top for ipod/mac sales queries, not their retail partners (unless they've seo'd the hell out of some long tails). If I typed in 'ipod' and Apple was in fifth place under the fold I would think the search engine I was using was broken.
Internetheaven natural search is off because of human reviewing the serps and flag certains site to be a good/bad page!
Aims could be to have influence on natural link building!
Site that arenīt found or arenīt clicked will not get much natural links! So a site on top will not get to many links in a short time because of beeing first in serps.
Strong site will not get to strong to beat them, because of having a treshold.
Maybe we can combine it withe rollercoaster phenomen.
IF traffic throttling is real (and I don't think we've established that, we are just looking at some suggestive data) then some tie in with the Yo-Yo phenomenon would be natural. Your traffic cannot be limited unless your rankings get changed.
What I've seen on the Yo-Yo phenomenon to date seems to be tied more to time than clicks. And of course, whatever this is altogether would affect only certain sites - and my guess is it affects sites whose preliminary rankings shoot up dramatically for the keyword. It's like Google is saying "we're not so sure at this point that our users will really go for this result."
Now how would a webmaster tell the difference between throttling based on clicks and and throttling based on time of day or day of the week? I'd start by watching weekend traffic compared to week day traffic. Unfortunately for this discussion, all the yo-yo urls I know of are not my clients, so I do not have access to the traffic data.
If anyone can do this comparison, I'm all ears, as I assume many of us would be.
I've been assuming that Google is looking for end user satisfaction when the higher result is in place, and possibly stronger trust signals in some cases - but those are just two guesses.
Food for thought:
Natural vs. Un-natural - in SEO and the Google Algorithm [webmasterworld.com]
Filters exist - the Sandbox doesn't. How to build Trust. [webmasterworld.com]
your rankings change over the day several times. We can track it because we get every little search stored in a database, so we can compare yesterday to today or even now and an hour ago.
We can even say that we had ( and will have ) x visitors at 10 a Clock and y visitors at 12 a Clock. The amount within 15 minutes can change but the overall will be the same even for an hour.
I figured out that, sometimes ( good 15 minutes ) the supplimental pages are back ( very good ) many visitors are coming and suddenly the next 15 min. there only a tens form the previous visitors. But the allover amount for the hour stays the same.
[edited by: Martin_Ice_Web at 12:37 pm (utc) on Oct. 2, 2008]