Welcome to WebmasterWorld Guest from 54.167.65.247

Forum Moderators: Robert Charlton & aakk9999 & andy langton & goodroi

Message Too Old, No Replies

It seems a bit soon but I see a PR update

     
1:42 pm on Aug 23, 2008 (gmt 0)

Junior Member

10+ Year Member

joined:June 3, 2005
posts:81
votes: 0


It seems like the toolbar PR was updated a short time ago yet I'm seeing a shift down for one of my sites this morning.

Anyone else? I wonder if these visible PR updates are going to be more frequent that they use to be?

6:31 pm on Aug 23, 2008 (gmt 0)

Junior Member

5+ Year Member

joined:Dec 6, 2006
posts:155
votes: 0


Yes, some sites of mine that went to white bar accross the board last Oct. now have all page rank back. Serp positions have never changed by the way.
6:54 pm on Aug 23, 2008 (gmt 0)

Full Member

10+ Year Member

joined:May 6, 2006
posts:257
votes: 0


I see a white bar for two of my new sites.
7:18 pm on Aug 23, 2008 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member g1smd is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month

joined:July 3, 2002
posts:18903
votes: 0


Is that penalties lifting? That was mentioned as going to happen.
2:35 am on Aug 24, 2008 (gmt 0)

Junior Member

5+ Year Member

joined:Dec 6, 2006
posts:155
votes: 0


I think I was being penalized for the way I have my out going links as "do follow" and I believe that these penalties were finally lifted. So looks like to me that this was a very slow PR update as nobody is responding to this thread. My niche(s) must be some of the last to see the penalty lift from "visible PR". ?

I still have the same "do follow outbound links" but I have never had that many as they are only links to help the user (I have never worried about PR leaks or designed a site to gain Google PR).

No serp changes as these sites stay at the top for major keyword phrases including "site links".

But this visible PR update is for real happening right now in a few niches that I'm checking.

3:35 am on Aug 24, 2008 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

joined:Jan 5, 2006
posts:2095
votes: 2


I saw back links change today on one of our sites.
3:54 am on Aug 24, 2008 (gmt 0)

Junior Member

10+ Year Member

joined:Nov 16, 2004
posts:91
votes: 0


It looks like a PR penalty lifting. At least this happened to one of my sites which sold links. No change on my white hat sites.
12:22 pm on Aug 24, 2008 (gmt 0)

Junior Member

10+ Year Member

joined:June 3, 2005
posts:81
votes: 0


It's unclear if it is "penalty lifting" related. The site when from PR 2 down to 1. It's an ecomm site, little less that one year old, and very few IB links (it has no outbound links).

Another site I have was penalized for a long time and started to come back a couple of weeks ago... visible PR on this site is seeing no change.

BL's have bounced around a bit as well.

1:19 pm on Aug 24, 2008 (gmt 0)

Preferred Member

10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month

joined:Feb 10, 2005
posts:491
votes: 0


Here it also looks like a PR penalty lifting. One site was sent down to 2 and is back again at 4. No changes had been made over years. Only steady, organic inbound links.

All other sites remained on the previous PR.

2:36 pm on Aug 24, 2008 (gmt 0)

Preferred Member

10+ Year Member

joined:Mar 16, 2005
posts:379
votes: 0


What is everyone seeing with this update? My sites haven't gained at all. We went from 4 to 3 a couple of weeks ago and haven't bounced back.
4:20 pm on Aug 24, 2008 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member g1smd is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month

joined:July 3, 2002
posts:18903
votes: 0


I haven't seen any changes. I merely asked a (rhetorical) question of those that have.
11:06 pm on Aug 24, 2008 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month

joined:Sept 25, 2005
posts:1144
votes: 114


Not seeing any new PR on 'recently' (July) added pages.
9:21 am on Aug 25, 2008 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member g1smd is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month

joined:July 3, 2002
posts:18903
votes: 0


There is no such thing as "do follow".

There's a rel="no follow" attribute, and there are links without it.

9:56 am on Aug 25, 2008 (gmt 0)

Full Member

5+ Year Member

joined:Oct 26, 2007
posts:345
votes: 0


i got a white bar for my new site
12:10 pm on Aug 25, 2008 (gmt 0)

Senior Member from GB 

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month

joined:Apr 29, 2005
posts:1937
votes: 62


No changes to the PR on my sites.
6:47 pm on Aug 25, 2008 (gmt 0)

Preferred Member

10+ Year Member

joined:Jan 4, 2005
posts:621
votes: 0


nofollow not no follow ... isn't it?
1:14 am on Aug 26, 2008 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

joined:Jan 5, 2006
posts:2095
votes: 2


Our sites that had changes were white hat. They were all ecom sites with no penalties. Rankings are the same as they always have been.
6:18 pm on Aug 26, 2008 (gmt 0)

New User

5+ Year Member

joined:Aug 26, 2008
posts: 3
votes: 0


Hi there,

I'm new to things SEO but this seems very strange. 8 out of the top 10 sites for some of our most used keywords have Zero PR. White Bar on all 8 top listed sites.

Not to mention our number 1, 2 and or 3 ranked pages have all fallen off to #20 to #30 in ranking.

6:35 pm on Aug 26, 2008 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member tedster is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

joined:May 26, 2000
posts:37301
votes: 0


hello Jim - welcome to the forums.

White Bar on all 8 top listed sites.

Now that is very strange. Sounds a lot like some kind of buggy data, especially because you are seeing a white bar and not a gray one.

6:57 pm on Aug 26, 2008 (gmt 0)

New User

5+ Year Member

joined:Aug 26, 2008
posts: 3
votes: 0


Yep, here's a break down of the reported PR of the top 10 listed sites. There is one Gray Bar, and the one site that's PR 4/10 is in the UK. I'm in Chicago.

1. White Bar
2. White Bar
3. 1/10
4. White Bar
5. White Bar
6. 4/10
7. Gray Bar
8. White Bar
9. 1/10
10. White Bar

[edited by: tedster at 7:18 pm (utc) on Aug. 26, 2008]

7:02 pm on Aug 26, 2008 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member g1smd is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month

joined:July 3, 2002
posts:18903
votes: 0


Yeah, it is rel="nofollow" - no space.

All this junk talk about "do follow" has scrambled my brain.

7:23 pm on Aug 26, 2008 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member tedster is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

joined:May 26, 2000
posts:37301
votes: 0


Jim, I've thought some more and those white bars may not imply buggy PR data at all - depending on the situation.

One way is if the search term does not show many total results (say 6 figures or less) and the results that Google does return are internal urls rather than home pages/domain roots. At any rate, it should give you hope that you can compete well to see all those white bars in the SERPs.

11:42 pm on Aug 26, 2008 (gmt 0)

Junior Member

10+ Year Member

joined:Jan 19, 2003
posts:155
votes: 0


I had a blog go from pr 4 to 5 but still bouncing back and forth a bit
2:46 am on Aug 27, 2008 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

joined:Dec 19, 2004
posts:1939
votes: 0


There was a minor update. I believe it was to formerly penalized sites. I have a client who had outbound links on his homepage that were obviously mistaken for sold links (he doesn't sell links) but he got demoted last update, and his pages just now got pagerank within the last two weeks.
2:49 pm on Aug 27, 2008 (gmt 0)

New User

5+ Year Member

joined:Aug 26, 2008
posts: 3
votes: 0


There was a minor update. I believe it was to formerly penalized sites

I'm going to keep a wait and see attitude for now, but, if this is an update that's going to last it's not a minor one. We use a very popular php driven shipping cart and Google used to love our cart's pages. Now they're gone! We still have good ranking on our older static pages. But the money pages have dropped 20-30 spots.

3:53 pm on Aug 27, 2008 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member tedster is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

joined:May 26, 2000
posts:37301
votes: 0


Jim, your talking about actual search rankings - that's not the same thing as PageRank.