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The pages shown under this command use to appear in 1st or 2nd and
3rd page in google for the keywords of that particular page, the
pages that don’t appear are in the "SUPLEMENTARY RESULTS" or somewhere like that in google index.
This is not a fact though, I tried it in a couple of websites I
manage and what I found was terrible, I use be confident for the amount of pages indexed in my websites but after I run the command I found that I had lot less pages indexed, but what is really interesting here is that my top keywords are almost 90% the ones in the REAL google index(try with your website please), in other words, google mostly care
about pages shown in the “site:http://www.MYDOMAINNAME.com/* “ and
these pages rank very good, the rest of pages (the ones out of the * list) really have a hard time getting good rankings.
This easy to proof with new websites that googole crawls and index
many of the new pages, running this command will show the real true
about what google is really getting of your site and showing in
rankings.
Well, all this is my theory and I don’t know if any of you can tell
me if I am right or if it is just a backdoor trick that means nothing. I just want to share this and find some answers.
What i have certainly found is that sites with lot pages in the wildcard index have lot more visits and pages in first pages in google than sites that have few wildcard results. please test it with your site and post a comment.
Yes, the /* is a hack that was discovered a while ago - and if you have very few pages in the main index, then you get less traffic than you might want, especially to your deep pages.
Ever since Google removed the "supplemental result" tag, we've had less solid information to go on. In fact, I often do the site: operator search on AOL (Google supplies their data) and notice that AOL shows even fewer pages in the main index than google.com does. And AOL and other partners do not get access to supplementals so you don't need the extra hack there to do the site: operator search.
So the question is how to get a url moved into the main index, correct? Two factors that I know of help a lot - more PageRank (link juice) and unique titles/meta descriptions for each page. There's a lot more relevant information in this discussion:
Duplicate Description and Title Notices in WMT - do they affect ranking? [webmasterworld.com]
site:www.example.com//
site:www.example.com/&
Funny things happen with punctuation in Google results ;)
Tedster's (as always!) solid advice aside, for me, the question is: what's the difference between pages that get filtered by such methods, and pages that don't?
Do you think the lower count on AOL is because of an additional filter or is it an indexing issue (ie: not recently crawled or found)?
it has same number of pages indexed as my 500 daily visitors website
Do you think the lower count on AOL is because of an additional filter or is it an indexing issue (ie: not recently crawled or found)?
I have seen regular index pages of long standing not show up in AOL, so I don't think it's recent additions that are omitted, at least it's not only recent additions. Some other criteria must ne in place for winnowing down the data that they share. It might be as simple as adding in some country-specific content filtering (G does extra filtering according to local country laws), but I haven't looked closely enough to have a well informed opinion.
Try searching for (a phrase from ) the title tag - IMO this gives you the best indication as to whether a page is Supplemental or not
IMO whether this is useful depends on the other sites in the index for this phrase. Otherwise, you could be viewing a site that's simply top of the "supplemental results".
regular index pages of long standing not show up in AOL
I haven't looked in detail at AOL results recently either, partly because in the past they applied fairly crude "blanket" filters to swathes of sites. Other than .info-style hiccups, the same sorts of processes don't seem to apply to Google results.
you could be viewing a site that's simply top of the "supplemental results".
But if all the results are Supplemental then surely you have a level playing field in any case don't you? :)
you have a level playing field in any case don't you
True enough for an individual keyword search, but I think there are other implications of pages being supplemental.
