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Over the past few weeks when you type domain in the results have gone from 4000 to 8000 now to 16000 which sounds good, backlinks are also on the increase, however my domain has fallen of off top spot again and appears in 30 ish.
I have dug deeper into the results only to notice that there are sites where the description has my web address in it but the title is adult related and when you click on the link it redirects to an adult movie.
There not one site there are loads of them. I have tried the server headers and it doesnt note the redirect i am wondering whether this has something to do with some of the hassle i have had wih the web site over the past few years.
What can i do about it, can i report this to google? can i talk to matt cutts, what can i do?
[edited by: tedster at 7:53 pm (utc) on Mar. 26, 2008]
In that situation there wouldn't need to be any re-direct, but it's not clear why it would outrank your actual domain. If your domain is example.com, and you type example.com into Google, you are coming up at #30 or so? That is usually a strong penalty showing loss of trust at Google. Usually penalties that severe are handed out for playing around with backlinks and redirects.
[edited by: tedster at 1:45 am (utc) on June 6, 2008]
This kind of intentional disruption of the competition is really not an "seo specialist" kind of thing, in my opinion. It takes no expertise at all, and it is essentially a plague on the web that gives REAL seo a bad name. It's in the same category as the 302 hijacking wars of a few years back. It's like kids scuffiling on the playground, and not professional seo work.
Unfortunately, it can also be effective at times - and Google has their hands full combatting the distortions in produces. So consider your own backlink profile to be like your body's immune system. We all get exposed to the same germs, but only some of us get sick. Get the strong antibodies in there and you won't get sick as easily.
However, I'm still not convinced this is actually what the problem is in your case, Steve. Seeing your "web address" in the description or snippet is not the same thing as a real link - anchor tag and all. It sounds more like scraper behavior and autogenerated pages. Thatkind of thing is not done to disrupt you, but only to trick Google into sending traffic to them. A strong backlink profile works even better to avoid that kind of damage.
I have dug deeper into the results only to notice that there are sites where the description has my web address in it but the title is adult related and when you click on the link it redirects to an adult movie
We're having the same thing happen to us. These pages also try and get you to download software to view the movie so I have been reporting them through the malware section of Google as well as the spam report section. They are serving up cloaked content, a cache of the page shows a scraped version of our content but when a user goes to the page you get adult content and a bunch of "Download now" alert messages.
internetheaven, has it affected you serps position?
We act pretty quickly on them so I doubt they get the chance, we have a copyright service that notifies us if new pages with our content emerge and we have Google Alerts too.
We didn't use to be so vigilant and some pages of our site that ha been stolen were removed from the Google index - replaced with the spam sites!
The best defense is a strong backlink profile
I agree, but most of the strength lies in our main pages. Scrapers steal alot of inner page content which isn't so strong. We had 10+ pages of our site linking in to these pages that disappeared - each was PR3-PR4 and had 50-2000 backlinks. How strong must you be for Google to recognise you're not the thief?
"link:domain" uses one of Google's special operators, link: - it will return a sample of the links that point to the domain...but note that you need the full domain name including the tld extension.
You can do the first search for either "example" or "example.com" and get the appropriate results for each of those two character strings. But if you skip the extension on the link: operator, the results you get will assume that the colon is a word separator, not a special operator.
I have a site showing 1200 pages but if you hit second page (100 per page) they only show 120. But ... the site has 1200 pages for real and Google got them all. I think this update has some major discrepancies between result count and what they show you.
It's troubled times right now but never have I seen Google report so large differences between estimated count (the corner one) and 'real' count (the one you get when you go some pages down the serps).
Wait a bit. Don't make any sudden movements / changes.
[edited by: tedster at 4:18 pm (utc) on April 7, 2008]
Adult content kills a site?
Yeah :( Adult content causes addiction and kills lives too! It's sad...
[edited by: tedster at 4:19 pm (utc) on April 7, 2008]
Trademark your name look up the domain owners do a header check see were the 302's are hitting most are then be redirected from another site. Look up all whois on all of the sites find a common bond. Link them together and send the offending sites an email to delete your trademarked name.
Send Google a DMAC on the offending sites as well as a spam report on them. If they have your domain name in the description then they are in violation of Trademark laws.
There is a huge toss up on this but my belief this can hurt your rankings.
Do not allow this to continue do everthing you can to stop and shut down the sites attacking your domain name.
Consider this as an act of War and right now they are winning.
