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Does Google penalize websites blacklisted by Wikipedia?

         

elan

6:02 am on Mar 14, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

Does Google penalize the websites black listed in Wikipedia due to spam regulations?

[searchenginejournal.com...]

(See matts explanation there!)

Is anybody experienced?

I got my site blacklisted in wikipedia. If we mail administrators, is there any chance to get out of this?

tedster

6:12 am on Mar 14, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Hello elan, and welcome to the forums. Matt Cutts' explanation seems straightforward to me:

If you do a search for [wikipedia spam blacklist], the first result is helpful. It gives pointers to various strings and urls that Wikipedia has blacklisted on their site.

I’d characterize that list as much like a spam report: the data can be useful, but at least in Google it wouldn’t automatically result in a penalty (for the reason that site A might be trying to hurt site B).

So Google won't necessarily penalize you just because Wikipedia has you on the list. But they sure might take a close look - and do a human inspection even though their algo gives you a clean bill of health. My advice is to study Google's Guidelines and clean up in any area where you have been pushing it.

webgal23

8:13 pm on Mar 14, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Not sure about the blacklist.

However, last year, a snarky competitor of our company added a bunch of bogus links to OUR site to Wikipedia, which resulted in our URL being put into a directory called Project Spam.

I hasn't impacted our traffic, but it is extremely annoying that now - when you do a Google search for our company - (due to Wikipedia's overall popularity apparently) a page titled Project Spam + our URL now comes out on page 1 of the results. VERY frustrating.

We're looking into our options, but I'm not sure there are any.

bonnyman

6:59 pm on Apr 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Webgal, I suggest you post a note here:

[en.wikipedia.org...]

asking someone to take a second look. Be prepared for hard questioning -- the wiki people get a lot of these requests and probably less than 30% of them are legit, so they tend to be very skeptical.

Do you have a Wikipedia account? If not, I suggest you get one for this.

Good luck!

(P.S. -- can you let us know what happens?

Bewenched

8:34 pm on Apr 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

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That's a darn good question. We used to have a couple of wiki links to our site last year. Then we started running some google ads on some of our article pages and BOOM wiki slammed us as spam. Even though I wrote the editor(s) about it nothing was done to get us white-listed. So I guess in Wikipedia if you run google ads are are automatically spam. Very frustrating when you're dealing with a rogue editor.

webgal23

10:21 pm on Apr 8, 2008 (gmt 0)

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asking someone to take a second look.

Actually we tried that. Our question, posted on the talk page per their instructions, was never even answered.

One consolation - we apparently have a lot of company - Wikipedia has even set up a similar spam page for Google. Of course when you Google "google" THAT page doesn't show up on page 1!

Bewenched

4:33 am on Apr 9, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Our question, posted on the talk page per their instructions, was never even answered.

They rarely are.

testike

5:53 am on Apr 9, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I requested the removing of my links from the spam page of theirs and finally they did that, but it tooks some time (couple of weeks) and had to remind them couple of time to so.

Bewenched

4:09 pm on Apr 9, 2008 (gmt 0)

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they link like this spam.yourwebsite.com

I guess you could set up a subdomain of spam.yourwebsite.com and put your privacy policy etc there as a way to plead your case.

bonnyman

7:57 pm on Apr 9, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Wiki sounds like a pretty hostile place to stick a link if you're not one of their regulars. I wonder if the traffic and link love you can get with a link there is worth the aggravation and embarrassment when it later gets yanked and written up for the world to see.

It also looks like sometimes they're flagging all of a domain-owner's domains and not just those put in their articles. One case I just looked at involved domains that were registered privately. I wonder how they can do that?

StuffOfInterest

8:12 pm on Apr 9, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Wikipedia has been moving away from external links for a long time. A list of links at the bottom of the article is just an invitation to spam. What you see more of now are references which usually point to specific information rather than just a website.

Even regulars can't go around and put external links in to thier sites. As soon as someone sees a few links showing up that look like a pattern they are likely to audit all of the recent edits by that user (or IP address) and purge their links out.

One more thing to remember, Wikipedia started using nofollow tags a while back, so your external links won't get you any search engine love. All you can hope for is that someone reading the article will choose to follow a link. This does not happen much with reference links unless the reader is wanting to research a specific point.

g1smd

10:40 pm on Apr 9, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I reported the general problem in another thread, but I didn't mention the site was actually wikipedia at that point:

A search like: site:domain.com "some text to find"

is also returning several pages that are NOT from domain.com in the results.

The change has happened in the last 24 to 36 hours, or less.

Since we're talking about wikipedia here, I thought I would mention it in case it means something to someone.

g1smd

11:00 pm on Apr 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I forgot to mention. The extra results from other sites appear only when the "If you like, you can repeat the search with the omitted results included" link is clicked.

silverbytes

6:05 pm on Jul 23, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Somebody quoted matts cutt saying since site A may hurt site B, Google can't penalize sites just for being in wikipedia spamlist. But it is a fact wikipedia shares that information and it's public.