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I just think of gray barred PR as "data not available". For example, one browser-based SEO tool that I use reports gray bar PR as NaN (not a number).
Really making me nervous.
We haven't made significant changes.
We haven't done any ...I mean ANY black hat or linking at all.
We have had google site maps since it first began.
We are an 11 year old site.
We do run google adword campaigns.
We have a select few pages that do run google ads on them
(helps pay for the server)
Sadly we do need to make some changes to the site but I'm almost afraid to change anything.
Back before Google launched the link seller PR demotions, Matt Cutts blogged that around Google a PR update was pretty much a non-event" Besides, a PR update doesn't really create any "top" to work with.
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If your rankings are staying stable, that's what matters. PageRank depends on links and how the entire web is interconnected through them. To maintain or improve the PR of a url, its interlinking to the entire web usually needs to improve as well.
The strange bit occurred when we noticed the secondary level pages have increased to 4 / 10! Some of these had 0 / 10 before the update.
Seems like a more fundamental change than the recent changes we've seen. From our experience the norm is for the homepage to have the higher PR (our homepage has more inbound links to it)
Anyone else seeing something like this?
It might be a toolbar glitch or a temporary thing, though. The site is rather new, with only 90 indexed pages, very few inbound links and the PR8 one does not yet appear on a "link:" search for that domain.
Another site launched at the same time, which serves as a corporate brochure for the above new site and its sister, also went from PR0 to PR4 with close to no inbound links (3, only from our own sites).
I'd be happy with those figures if they are real :)
1. Lowered home page PR with higher PR on internal urls that actually beats the home page.
2. Missing or zero PR on many internal urls, even with a strong home page PR.
I can't quite wrap my head around these two a s being one single thing, but these two patterns do seem to be more widespread than in past updates. I wonder if it is "something new" we're seeing, or just two different kinds of buggy data.
#1 sounds like PR demotions, something like the treatment link-sellers got back in October.
#2 sounds more like a bug to me. I wonder if it might be related to the new way supplemental urls are being treated. That was a significant infrastructure change by Google. But, just guesses here - I've got no hard information right now.
What do we take away from this kids?
TBPR means nothing, it is 3-6 month data that is not even remotely close to accurate and is now being toyed with further "tweaks" including subs 1 level down from a 7 being pr1 but retaining rankings or being graybarred and retaining rankings or being a 6 and loosing rankings.
Now this one comes along, why so soon? Has not affected us as of yet, cannot really do much more to us anyway. Its just mind boggling...
The only internal pages on my sites that now have PR are pages that have external links pointing to them. It's like G is not passing PR from internal pages.
Can anyone else confirm this?
Could there have been an update in the algorithmic search index to coincide with this PR update, and is it possible that Google have decided to score single pages on merit, rather than whole sites?