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The former shows the same number of pages as www.mysite.com for all my websites while the latter shows a much smaller number of pages butlists those pages that I would NOT expect to be supplimental.
Or should we now be forgetting about supplimentals being different
[edited by: tedster at 12:26 am (utc) on Sep. 16, 2007]
[edit reason] switch to example.com - it can never be owned [/edit]
Supplementals are still different, I'd say, but we just lost our certainly as to what urls are actually supplemental.
[edited by: tedster at 11:04 pm (utc) on Sep. 4, 2007]
I have been busy on other stuff so haven't looked at all.
Anyone have any tips (maybe excel) on extracting all pages, non-supplementals and getting a list of supplementals?
Are you sure it's not the other way around?
One interesting thing is try it with a /? seems to add the two sets of results together.
[edited by: Bewenched at 10:37 pm (utc) on Sep. 5, 2007]
At one point (in Feb.), every page on the site other than the home page and one other were in the supplemental index, so I've worked to get most of the pages out of supplemental and am aware of the status of the home page.
My feeling is that maybe the home page is getting hit with an overoptimization penalty for this particular word or lack of stemmed versions of this word, hence its being put on the 14th page versus the 11th page.
It comes up number one for a common two-word variation, ie "technical widgets".
Okay... if you're still reading, my question is, "What is the slash-asterisk for?" Is anyone else seeing it to indicate something other than what is in the supplemental index?
In other words, #1 is a definition and history site, #2 might appear to google to be a community of sorts (altho it's actually a commercial site, requires payment for participation, and is not applicable to the vast majority in the community), and #3 is an online community of people interested in this topic.
If I search with the /* after the term, the fourth site is listed first. It's the most applicable site for people who work in this area. It probably has a lot more links to it than any other results on the first page.
The Google Directory category is not above the fold when doing a search with the /* but is the 8th result when doing a search without the /*.
A non-profit organization for people in the field and a national magazine on this topic both also get boosted above the fold and disappear when the /* are added.
It seems obvious that the pages that get boosted are deemed to be authorities & hubs. It seems that google also has recently determined which of the pages at my site are most likely, themselves, to be authorities or hubs, because the listing, when doing site:mysite.com, now shows my home page first, sitemap second, variation on the sitemap third, subindices next, etc. In the past, the first result was the home page but the next result might be an article about how to get jobs in the industry or something similar (that others are likely to link to).
On the search of this term, there are twice as many results in the index when you add the /*, indicating that what google thinks of as less important is thrown out of the Primo index and only shows up if someone does a more specific search. But with site:mysite.com, that is reversed. You get the larger result without the /* added. I presume that's because someone doing a site: search generally wants to see everything from that site, not just what google deems to be most likely to be important.
Yes /* is those NOT in supplementals. I'm reasonably sure that's the case because that search shows the home page plus other key well-ranked pages for the site. It might not show all, but it looks reasonably accurate.
Subtract those returned by site/* from those returned by site (the full list) and I assume that would give those in supplemental. Any comments?
site:www.example.com/ -site:www.examplee.com/*
the results from that certainly look worthy of being supplemental, for the most part. hmmn maybe i should look at fixing that as well...
on closer inspection it isn't exact, there are some ( ~1% on my site) pages returned by this that are returned by
site:www.example.com/*
which i dont understand.
[edited by: tedster at 12:27 am (utc) on Sep. 16, 2007]
[edit reason] switch to example.com - it can never be owned [/edit]
