How Google finds new domain (again)

Google finds new domains not linked from anywhere

[Casachep]

Hi,
I’m restarting a topic that was addressed many months ago, mostly because I can’t find a proper answer and I hope to solve that one.

How does Google find new domains that aren’t linked from anywhere and haven’t been submitted?

I bought a domain name few months ago, and only started to host it and to show a temporary page 2 weeks ago. The domain is a .ca (Canada) and the name is French (relatively competitive words, something equivalent to SEO…). The IP is shared and there is no direct access to the sites from the IP.

There are NO history of that domain in the past (archive.org or search engines), there are no links from any site and I definitely didn’t submit it to Google.

A leak of some sort from my Registrar is not an issue, since we are part owner of the Registrar (CIRA certified).

Toolbar spying theory doesn’t apply since I don’t use a toolbar.

Thanks!

[JerryOdom]

Google is also a domain name registrar so they would have access to records of registrations.

[theregister.co.uk...]

[jimbeetle]

Welcome to Webmaster World [webmasterworld.com], Casachep.

What you're describing ins't at all unusual. Plop up a new site and within an hour or a day or two spiders start knocking on the door. From what I've noticed MSN actually seems to be the best at this.

A leak of some sort from my Registrar is not an issue

Doesn't have to be a leak. Google itself is a registrar and, I'm assuming, has access to the same domain registration data other registrars do. It wouldn't be too much of a leap for them to occasionally ping domains to see if they are active.

<added>And Jerry beat me to it. I didn't know I typed that slowly.</added>

[Casachep]

To found that particular domain, you would have need to be a member of CIRA (which Google isn’t, at least under their name), then know the registrant numbers you want to look up or create a script to look up the possible registrant numbers, into a form. Creating that script isn’t difficult, but using it could be an ethical issue.

It’s also interesting to figure why certain new domain names are being found more quickly then others. I have seen numbers of small sites not indexed for months because they weren’t link from anywhere (clients from the same Registrar). They submitted to Google, but we all know it doesn’t really work. Was it some random verification? I guess we'll never really know, we can only assume...

[JerryOdom]

I'm fast like that jim. You elaborate :P

[tedster]

Also someone might go to the new domain with the Google Toolbar active. In fact, there are reports that doing this can cause Google to index a url that people would rather not see indexed -- such as a site search results page. I'm plugging up one such leak right now.