Google Datacenters Watch 2006-03-05

Observations, Analysis and Remarks

[eyezshine]

< continued from [webmasterworld.com...] >

Looks like more Datacenters have been updated to Big Daddy. I am seeing lots of traffic from 72.14.203.99

My new sites are getting tons of traffic from google.com today.

[edited by: tedster at 6:54 am (utc) on Mar. 6, 2006]

[akreider]

One of my websites increased its traffic by a factor of 20 on March 8th (almost entirely driven by Google) and continues to do well.

I'm guessing that this behavior best matches that of the google sandbox. If so, then it would have been in the sandbox since mid-September -- when traffic fell by 2/3 and remained at very low levels until now.

But because there is something going on, I thought I'd mention it to see if anyone else experienced a major change on March 8th?

[bobmark]

My assessment (which could be totally wrong), akreider is that Google is merging the BD index with both the "FEB index" (results appeared around FEB-16) AND the results of the heavy crawling going on recently. It seems to be a gradual process with some sites reporting recovery, some not, so the date may vary for many sites.

I have noticed tho that each day my usual dc switches to a BD dc, the BD results seem slightly different - more a merge of BD and the other data.

[Dayo_UK]

>>>> but I am prepared to accept that maybe we might see an improvement after a further spidering update and PR/links update...

Those are my thoughts too.

PR/Links update and a crawl before I judge Big Daddy.

[LuckyGuy]

Looks like BD makes two steps ahead and one back. So it will probably still last a while till we get the right BD results?!

[Miop]

<Looks like BD makes two steps ahead and one back. So it will probably still last a while till we get the right BD results?! >

Looks like that to me too. About two months ago, I predicted that it would be around mid-summer that my site would become wholly 'fixed' (for want of a better term) on visible DC's, and I'm sticking with that forecast (sadly).

[King of all Sales]

Anybody know what happened to the McDar tool?

[brokenbricks]

It McDied.

[Block19Row13]

hope someone can help, ive tried adding new topics but they never get through the review stage.

from 2002 to oct 2005 we hosted our ecommerce solution with one company, and from oct 2005 to present we have a new one.

all of a sudden our two main keywords have our old file extensions below the result in google, and, our current home page cannot be found.

is this a Big Daddy thing? or has G lost the plot?

many thanks

[LuckyGuy]

Block19Row13,
what does your cache date say? And did u ceck more than one DC?

[guru5571]

In the old Google index I have hundreds of thousands of pages. In Big Daddy I have only had around 300-500. It spiked up to 900 a few weeks ago but has been back down recently. Today it jumped to 11,000 then 14,000 then 15,000.

Anyone else seeing anything like this?

[g1smd]

Yes, commercial shopping cart site.

Normal results: 55 000 reported (real number of pages that exist is less than half that), and on BD only 250 pages shown.

Been link that for a couple of months (except for short time that BD showed 3 500 pages).

[b2net]

What is the most up-to-date BD datacenter? I'm seeing a little difference in the way my site is indexed between 66.249.93.104 (bad) and 64.233.167.10 or 66.102.7.104 which are better for a test phrase.

Also what could cause BD problems finding the most relevant page from my site? If I search for "red widgets" it can return a page titled "online widgets" instead of "red widgets". Both pages have similar priority. I haven't had this problem with non-BD datacenters and no improvement has happened in the BD datacenters since last December despite regular googlebot visits. This relevancy problem is causing a 50% drop in traffic because the 'wrong' page doesn't rank as well against the competition.

[LuckyGuy]

GuruXXXX,

yes same on my side. About 5000 real pages. On BD it went up to 9500 last week. But I canīt figure out if its double counted or old pages included.

[colin_h]

Does anyone else get the feeling that BD is ignoring PR at the moment. My PR hasn't changed in years and yet my normal keyphrases are nowhere to be seen.

Come back Jagger ... all is forgiven ;-)

[Dayo_UK]

>>>>>Does anyone else get the feeling that BD is ignoring PR at the moment. My PR hasn't changed in years and yet my normal keyphrases are nowhere to be seen.

There is no doubt (well a little) in my mind that BD is ignoring the PR calculated by Big Daddy.

G seems to be finding the destination page in redirects after a long time of absence but not crediting them yet with any ranking value.

Colin - Although you said your PR has been unchanged for ages I think I remember you saying you were PR0 for a month or so around September - November time, this was maybe when Big Daddy was born - so perhaps they are using PR from that time for your site?

A lot of DCs just went Non-Big Daddy again - looks like a fair amount of waxing and waning to go then.

[qwerty]

>>>>>>But because there is something going on, I thought I'd mention it to see if anyone else experienced a major change on March 8th?

Yes, I saw a major change as well on March 8th. For the first time in a long time, when I did a site:mydomain.com, it showed the homepage indexed first instead of not even visible in the first 1000 results. At the same time, my Google traffic increased back to what it used to be.

Did all those who saw increased traffic on March 8th also see a fix to their site indexing using the site: command?

[colin_h]

Hi Dayo,

I've since sold that site and the associated business. The sites I monitor now are just personal projects that I've had since 1999 or so. Have monitored the levels for ages now and they have remained PR5 for a good 24 months or so.

All the Best

Col :-)

p.s. moved out of Norwich now to Swannington

[FromRocky]

yes same on my side. About 5000 real pages. On BD it went up to 9500 last week. But I canīt figure out if its double counted or old pages included.

When your site reaches a 1000 mark of pages listed in SERPs, BD will register a 9000+ pages for the site. It's not real a 9000+ pages but just over 1000 pages in BD.

[tedster]

Sometimes, but not always, I see that total number of urls adjust as I click into deeper pages on a site: search.

[colin_h]

For all of you that missed MCdar tool in your search to make sense of the DC's ... it's back up again.

All the Best

Col :-)

[Eazygoin]

......But Matt's site isn't!

[guru5571]

My BD page count is continuing to climb again today. Up to 17.500 now.

[watercrazed]

Was Supplemental, Not Now. Checked several BD center and have different number of pages indexed, all greatly inflated. 3000+ actual, indexed range from a low of 10,000 about what it was before BD Supplemental to a high of 21,000.

[colin_h]

I'm looking at some stats this morning and it seems that my personal project (Non-Profit) sites are slowly clawing back some keyphrases. Certainly this is not accross the board, just the odd page here and there. This may have something to do with google.co.uk being old serps yesterday, but I've been hit on those also.

My gut instinct is that as sites begin to get their supplemental status dropped, the links to my site will become more valuable again and individual pages will begin to pick up once more.

All the Best

Col :-)

[reseller]

Good evening Folks

The following BigDaddy DCs

216.239.53.99
216.239.53.104

216.239.57.99
216.239.57.104

66.102.7.99
66.102.7.104

are showing different top 10 sites for my testing keyphrase than these two BigDaddy DCs

64.233.179.99
64.233.179.104

From past experience, I'm not sure that all of you would notice difference in ranking of top 10 sites when using your own testing keyphrase. Therefore I'm posting here my own testing keyphrase just to illustrate what I'm taking about: Try this one:

<edited>

That was my Google Datacenters observation of the day :-)

<sorry, no search phrases.
See the Google Forum Charter [webmasterworld.com]>

[edited by: tedster at 9:09 pm (utc) on Mar. 15, 2006]

[mahoogle]

For the people that lost significant page count...Is it getting worse or better for you. From what I've noticed is was improving, but is now worse than ever in terms of the number of pages indexed across the data centers.

[Wally_Books]

my results are worse, it looked like there was some hope but now it looks worse,

I just don't understand, on non-BD centers my results were good with current caches, but with BD it s*cks and BD is spreading, were really hurting. No traffic

[reseller]

mahoogle & Wally_Books

On which of the two BigDaddy DCs sets you are doing "worse"

66.102.7.99
66.102.7.104

or

64.233.179.99
64.233.179.104

or the same?

[Wally_Books]

66.102.7.99
66.102.7.104

or

64.233.179.99
64.233.179.104

I'm doing terrible on all four of these, a little better on the 1st 2, (5 pages more), only missing 5600 pages out of 5800.

[Miop]

People who are doing terrible...please don't lose heart. We have been doing terrible and then we have surges of traffic and business. Its not ideal but it's not the end. It's like a tide...