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I had two sites. The main one is very stable, but the second one goes up and down very often, almost one week up and one week down. This week, it stays longer than usual and I hope Google found a way to keep results consistant. Both sites are ranked higher than before.
[edited by: tedster at 2:03 am (utc) on May 2, 2007]
I don't know what to do I am real worried... I want that to becomes at least a PR... help me webmasters.
My homepage and all subsections are PR6 since ages, still got 950ed. The PR 5 site didn't get 950ed, hence forget PR.
[edited by: mattg3 at 10:07 am (utc) on May 21, 2007]
You cant hit a website because other article sites have collected articles from it?
Its likely that a good site may have an information section on it and may well release a press article for example that gets syndicated.
In the majority of cases these sites that list loads of articles often have zero or very low PR to pass on anyway so are providing little advantage if any anyway
Content is not much of a problem to overcome if your talking about investing in your sites content can be had pretty cheap.
Ah, but the copy editing costs real money. :-)
I am going to go wide and hit a few new areas as insurance but I am lucky enough to have a good base to work from.
Are you an expert on insurance? Do you have a unique angle on insurance, or are can you find "pretty cheap" writers who can supply content about insurance that's better than, or more interesting than, information about insurance that's already available on the Web? If not, where do you expect to get quality inbound links (as opposed to bought links or reciprocal links from other sites of questionable value, which Google is increasingly likely to ignore)?
I am going to go wide and hit a few new areas as insurance but I am lucky enough to have a good base to work from.
I think he's expanding into new areas to cover his butt (insurance), not writing about insurance. As to expertise in those new areas...?
Is it a normal trend, so called summer holidays effect? or what else? Does anyone else has experienced this kind of situation?
Your comments and suggestions will appreciated.
[edited by: tedster at 4:05 pm (utc) on May 22, 2007]
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did a search not in Google results at all. Bunch of shopping sites and other worthless junk....
What is going on Yahoo has it Right even MSN could find the company so du were is Google going
[edited by: tedster at 5:25 pm (utc) on May 23, 2007]
pretty weird stuff. it hasnt affected me in a bad way YET but lots of movement in my sector for sure
Biggest changes in at least ten months, probably even longer.
Some good improvments, and some ranking of very mediocre quality domains (mediocre, not bad).
One of my competitor has filled his website with "keywords" here and there with no sense, his home page is just keywords, nothing else. no content nothing.. just keywords.. and he was on top and still on top.
No matter how much google support "white hat SEO", their googlebot Loves "Black hat"..
Those who are genuine, will keep suffering like this.
It's really SAD..
One more thing I have noticed that the keyword which is at #1 in Google SERPs since long time was previously giving 50 visitors is giving 30-35 visitors / day now a days. Even though the position is same.
Can anyone share his opinion on it?
In the majority of cases these sites that list loads of articles often have zero or very low PR to pass on anyway so are providing little advantage if any anyway
I don't see any PR value but a lot of SERP value. One site came out of nowhere to top many other sites which have been online for years. Of course I was curious to know, How did they do that?!
My brief investigation turned up one large article site most people know about by the author of the highly-ranked new site with multiple links back to specific pages of main categories, e.g., widgets.com/red; widgets.com/white; and widgets.com/blue.
So now it's number one or number two in Google for these categories, and for many others above the fold. It's going after all the main categories for the relevant keyword phrases which show up in monthly Overture inventory results.
I don't know that the syndicates add much SERP help, although they could. It seems more likely Google thinks the world of one article site link farm, and anything linked from it must be the best thing since sliced bread.
I've been tempted to try the same thing, because it's not difficult to write short articles under 1,000 words. I'd like to know if I could find the same SERP 'juice.' But I don't think it's ethical to pass off yourself as an expert and try to manipulate Google rankings in a way that Google already said it doesn't condone.
I also happen to think it's only a matter of time before Google figures it out, and adjusts its algo, giving a penalty to the article link farmers. Since Google penalties nowadays can be extreme, from 30 to 950, I wouldn't be in the mood to run any tests, anyhow.
I can't see any other reason for the site jumping to the top. It's not a high-value site; it's an MFA. It would not get a great link from an authority site for high value. The content is minimalist, and the articles which provide the links get one-star ratings.
In summary, I think Google doesn't respect most article sites, but one or two trick it. Article sites, however, are link factories. Maybe G is getting a ton of profit off them (they have Adsense on every page), so it doesn't want to 'cut off the hand that feeds it.'
p/g
Article sites, however, are link factories. Maybe G is getting a ton of profit off them (they have Adsense on every page), so it doesn't want to 'cut off the hand that feeds it.'
Unlikely. Google just cut off a whole bunch of hands that were feeding it:
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when that universal search thing kicked in I disappeared pretty much off the face of the SERPs. Now I'm back to where I was.
The integration of Google Universal Search will have some peculiar side effects - at least for a while.
As I see it, each of these varied types of search results were formerly ranked by their own dedicated alogrithms. One of the challenges Google has is somehow normalizing these disparate relevance scales so that they can show the varied types of content all ranked appropriately on the same set of search results. That process inevitably has side effects, and I still expect we'll see some tweaking going forward.
Glad to hear that your disappearance was relatively short, Nocturnal.
Get a tape or digital recorder. Sit down with an expert and have that person talk. You throw questions, he/she answers. If you get, say 2.5 hours of conversation, you can turn the transcript into a dozen or so pages of original, highly interesting content. If the subject is insurance, hey anybody who has been in business for 20 years has tons of useful and interesting stories to tell. More than likely getting him/her to talk isn't the problem. Asking the right questions (questions that will get that info and those stories) will be the problem. If you end up with outstanding content, you will get outstanding links.
[edited by: tedster at 3:16 pm (utc) on May 30, 2007]
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For multiple words, significant changes but not especially out of the ordinary.
