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I'm ranked from #1 - #10 in google for some of my keywords. In msn I'm ranked #1 for all my keywords.
So I think my page is highly SEO, and that I've been doing things the right way. This is what I've been working on the last 6-7 months.
In google, my main keyword is somewhere between page 44-67 - some days my page don't even get listed at all when searching for my main keyword.
Is it possible that my site is sandboxed for ONE keyword?
Any suggestions on what to do?
It's strange.. running a site on widgets, and on that site you have a link from linkmetro or whatever that is all about screwdrivers.. then do a google search for screwdrivers, and your widget-site comes up 2nd because of this link.
Then you do a search for your main and highly optimized kw, and your site shows up in google page 77 :\
It sucks!
I'm just finished writing and uploading another article for my site, so I'll just have to continue doing this over and over, and see what happens i guess.
But this is also kind of hard considered my page is a webshop selling physical products, so I kinda' want to focus on the products and not the articles..
Any opinions on how to drive traffic to a webshop?
Thank you all for your answers..
No it doesn't. If a site is sandboxed it can rank even #1 for some obscure things. Sandboxing just means a site has a significant age-based scoring demerit against it. It will still rank though.
Where's the formal definition of google sandbox?
I'd like to know it.
In these cases I have just plain given up. Then suddenly that keyword phrase pops up to the top.
The site in itself as a whole doesn't change in rankings, just the ranking on that particular keyword phrase.
No major change on page, and no more or less backlinks.
Sometimes one of keywords or a variation of the keyword is popular/competitive in other sectors. I usually use the ~keyword to investigate this.
Once I actually had to use the word shown in "do you mean?" to make the real phrase show up, even though it wasn't related.
Weird stuff.
[edited by: minnapple at 3:27 am (utc) on Jan. 31, 2006]
It's very hard to rank highly for just one word, better to target a keyword phrase.
What tedster said.
It isn't even age related any more IMO. Not sure how much it ever was, except that age is now a dominant factor since almost a couple of years now. But there are a whole slew of factors and many are co-dependant.
In out up down.
What G is looking for is to feature is to feature site displaying signals of quality, with relative absence of negatives.
What they don't like are sites that fall out of acceptable parameters ... concepts like standard deviation come to mind. Perhaps, category specific? ;-)
Perhaps, category specific
And that's the part that really intrigues me these days about the entire algo. Why can pages in some sectors get a PR5 with just a score of inbound links or fewer, but in other sectors it takes a boatload? How would that work, mathematically? I mean, it's just PR we're tallking about here -- supposedly no content related factors.
Maybe the neighborhoods in certain sectors of the web are so extremely trashed that not passing PR is the rule rather than the exception. Thats the best I can come up with so far.
In most cases I come within one PR point, however in some cases I am so far off I shake my head.
In some of the headshaking cases I found some of the linking to or receiving sites were closesly related to each other, like they were just another page within the same site. Not counting as a endorsement just another sibling. And others I find other things.
Try this on a handfull of sites in a sector, and you will learn a bit.
Personally, I think it's in how the backlinks are weighted, the mapping, LR and TR. But that's just me.
....for my as well...just throwing my 2cents.
Concentrate on more content that will bring in people searching even more specific key word phrases.
Why can pages in some sectors get a PR5 with just a score of inbound links or fewer, but in other sectors it takes a boatload?
I believe part of the answer is the way that the high PR concentrators do their internal linking.
If PR is exponencial, in theory, the PR9/PR10 sites alone concentrate more PR than all the other sites combined. So, when both dir.yahoo.com and dmoz.org put a direct link in the front page to, say, Religion, sites about Religion high in the structure also gain a large chunk of PR, and distribute it down the line of Religious sites (hence, Religion is a topic with high PR sites).
OTOH, sites in the Adult category (which exists in dmoz, but I believe is linked to very discreetly) very rarely go over PR5.
Sorry for going briefly off topic.
