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But it's over 7 months now .....
Has anyone been subjected to longer periods of waiting and succeeded?
Does the length of time your site has been "out" effect it's recovery?
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The background is that these sites are indexed and part of a stable of 10 sites with different content. [The 8 others are working well]. However, these 2 sites do not produce results on Google.
All the principles applied on the 8 working sites apply to the 2 non working sites, and i have noticed with our sites that they can restore at vastly different times without reason [ up to 5 months apart ].
The history of these sites is something like this
-Launched Jul 2004
-Peaked Sep-Oct 2005
-Tanked Nov 2004 - Very moderate results to Jul 2005. Reason dupe content
-Hacked Aug 2005 - 180 day exclusion period applied
-Clean up Aug 2006 - finalised dupe content clean up
-Results Since August have not restored / indexing has been OK
All other sites restored from the duplicate content issues between Nov06 and Jan07
They are important because they are "branded" sites, so giving up is not desirable.
Should be
-Launched Jul 2004
-Peaked Sep-Oct 2005
-Tanked Nov 2005 - Very moderate results to Jul 2005. Reason dupe content
-Hacked Aug 2005 - robots.txt applied 180 day exclusion period applied
-Clean up Aug 2006 - finalised dupe content clean up
-Results Since August 2006 have not restored / indexing has been OK
[edited by: Whitey at 11:53 am (utc) on Mar. 21, 2007]
We just took over a site and had to do a lot of 301 redirect's in January that was ful of supplemental results. It took google 45 days to finally get the indexing right and drop the duplicate content. When we did this the TBPR dropped and the back links dropped to zero in January.
Finally, this morning we watched the site regain its back links and TBPR and its completely out of the supplemental index. It was a 60 page site and it took 45 days. So your larger site might take more time.
Have you been noticing google slowly fixing your site?
So your larger site might take more time.
The thing is , they are the same size as the others which are producing results.
Have you been noticing google slowly fixing your site?
These 8 "working" sites follow the same pattern as the others. They index, crawl, get cleaned of supplementals, and just sit there with no apparent signs of returning ranked results.
Then without warning they have released pages with good results into the SERP's usually at different levels of the site, at regular intervals [ 2 weeks or 1 month apart ].
The 2 that have not leapt into the results are doing the same thing, but there's always that niggling doubt in my mind that they are down for the count and will not reappear
The other part of me says - "there is a reason behind this" , and yet another part of me says - "this is entirely unpredictable".
It's got me beat - i guess I'm looking for some words of comfort that uphold the notion that some sites can take a long time to pull out of the "sandbox" filters. But how long?
Also, you have to look at your competition, has it been growing?
The market's stable, but when our sites work they rank well. The long tail searches with a snippet of content, with brackets removed [ exact match ] not appearing in the results, is the first step of recognition [ IMO ] to reveal that the content is filtered.
Only intermittant or "random" phrases of unique content rank. If i put those phrases into brackets they always come up No 1 or so. Take the brackets off and the results are nowhere to be seen. This was the same pattern that the other 8 had.
And then "bang" out of the blue, always on a Thurs [ AEDT ] Wed [PST] the results started to appear and grow over 3 days though the first level of pages.
