Banned twice?

one ban an innoculation?

[andrea99]

Last year my site was banned for 54 days and while I made a number of changes before being reincluded I never did figure out definitively what caused the ban or the reinclusion.

I understand the strategy of building more sites as insurance against another ban, yet this is very wasteful of finite resources. If one site is producing well with Google the common sense strategy would be to build upon it rather than making "egg baskets" that may not work and will certainly be sandboxed if put into a new domain.

But it appears that Google continues its cold-hearted Godzilla-like behaviors when it comes to updates. I have heard that the warning letters are only used sporatically...

My question is about the one ban--has anyone been banned and reincluded, then banned again? Is having been banned once and reincluded any indication that there has been a manual tag placed on my site?

[sublime1]

We had two of three sites banned a couple years ago. We sent an email to webmaster and they replied with
an obtuse email; we asked again and then again, and finally they hinted strongly enough at our error. After fixing things that could be potentially displeasing (known, guessed at and otherwise), we emailed again requesting re-inclusion. After sacrificing the appropriate number of goats, waiting for a couple months, our esteem was restored.

It's clear (at least to me) that the banning is a special thing: a site might get banned automatically, but only gets cleared manually.

So I would think of banning more like having a police record -- chances are a second transgression would incur capital punishment. Even if the first one was not for a good reason.

[Deester]

My site got banned at J3 and its just started to rank again tonight.

It's came back to its old self, right in at page 1 for seriously competitive markets. :)

[walkman]

>> My site got banned at J3 and its just started to rank again tonight.

banned as in no pages found or not ranking at all?

[Pico_Train]

Deester,

Any idea what got it banned?

What did you change if anything?

Merci!

[andrea99]

So I would think of banning more like having a police record -- chances are a second transgression would incur capital punishment. Even if the first one was not for a good reason.

Your comment gives me this image of Cossaks on horseback with swords lopping the heads of lowly serfs. While Google's behavior is quite cold-hearted and contributes greatly to the rumors and paranoia they probably won't be killing people, at least not while on horseback... They'll die of stress.

I disagree though that the "police record" is binary. I certainly would like to think that when my site was reincluded there was a human being reviewing it and making notes--that was the thrust of the question I asked at the beginning of the thread. Unfortunately it appears that no one here knows.

This thread seems to have taken another direction and my sympathies are with anyone who has been banned, I'll share my experience in getting reincluded but the best advice I can offer is to read the post and comments on Matt Cutts' blog titled "Filing a reinclusion request."