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Sites banned by Google for Over Submitting to Link Directories?

link directories, article directories

         

drquek

8:22 am on Mar 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Hello,

I suspect Google has blacklisted my sites submitted to link directories.

I have custom built three wonderful link directories and three great article directories.

All with different domain names and hosted on different servers.

I spent a month submitting my sites by hand to thousands of link directories. I DID NOT SPAM.

After a month, my sites start to appear in Google Search Engine.

Then I found out all of them were removed from Google after a month!

I suspect they were blacklisted by Google.

Or were they?

Regards,

Daniel

simey

11:25 am on Mar 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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You built link directories and article directories and submitted them to other link directories?

I suspect you are victim of the 'sandbox' or whatever people are calling it nowadays.

Google may not favour these kinds of sites presently, of which there are lots,(10,000's+).

In your position, I would
1. add some unique content, or at least a 'gimmick' or feature not found on the other 10,000s +.
2. Wait.

benevolent001

11:30 am on Mar 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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When you started making those websites and were they showing up finely before your link buliding campaign?

Gissit

6:18 pm on Mar 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I'm quite happy to be corrected on this. In my experience it seems that this type of linkbuilding on a new site is precisly what triggers the sandbox effect. I'm not saying it is the only thing but it certainly looks to have a major dampening effect on a new site.

If I were writing algos I would do it myself - devalue self promoting links when lots turn up in a short space of time

Robert Charlton

8:24 pm on Mar 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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drquek - First, what exactly do you mean by "banned?" Are you simply not ranking, or are your sites no longer in the index?

It may well be that, however-much care and effort you've put into building and submitting your sites, you haven't added enough unique content to the web for Google to rank your pages.

It's likely that your links directories may look like each other and like many others out there. They might even resemble scraper pages enough that they're running afoul of various new algo additions designed to filter out scrapers.

I spent a month submitting my sites by hand to thousands of link directories. I DID NOT SPAM.

To get to the core of your question, your problems are also likely to be about the quality of these inbound links.

You've built three link directories, you mention. Look at the backlinks of some of the link directories you've submitted to. Some of those directory owners might have built dozens of directories (if not hundreds or thousands), probably not by hand, and certainly not linked by hand. They may well be linked to each other, and to other link directories... it goes with the territory. And they may not be hosted independently.

Ultimately, the emphasis with these link and article directories is not likely to be on unique quality content and "organic" growth, and that all works against you when you use them as link sources to start your site off.

As simey suggests, do something to make your sites unique enough to get some good quality inbounds from other sources.

You might also consider how different your own directories are from each other, in terms of content and of inbound linking. You might be better off with just one of each, instead of three.

[edited by: Robert_Charlton at 8:31 pm (utc) on Mar. 17, 2007]

ogletree

11:48 pm on Mar 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Just because you submit to 1000 directories does not mean that Google has any idea that you have done it. Directories take a long time to get listed in. A lot of them hand approve and that takes a long time. Even if you did get in them as soon as you submitted your links you would be so deep that it would take Google a very long time to find your link. Each directory will be updated at very random times. If Google did not like you to do this the worst they would do is make the links have no value. Absolutely nothing bad can happen from submitting your site to a lot of directories.

Submitting to directories should be part of any link building process. But it should only be a small part. You still need to get other links. If your site does not rank in Google there is a good reason for it. Only legit sites should rank. You are going to have a hard time trying to get a site ranked if it is not very valuable. If you can't get other people to link to you then you have no business ranking in Google. If your site is just like a zillion others and provides nothing new then nobody is going to link to you.

Crush

6:51 am on Mar 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

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link directories are crappy and do not work any more so well.

Here is a test I did

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Also if you initially showed up it could just be some initial indexing but now you are sandboxed.

If it is a new domain, just keeping getting links and you will whow up one day :)

Go60Guy

5:50 pm on Mar 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

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IMO, with newer sites, the initial approach is simple.

1. Provide useful content in narrative form (not just lists, as in directories).

2. Write interesting articles about the site's topic, products or services containing links back, and make sure they are widely distributed. Don't post the articles on your site.

3. Gradually submit to directories. Try to get listed under topic headings related to your site.

While this may sound like an oversimplification, it does work, and it requires work. A little patience thrown into the mix helps a lot, and occasionally you'll sidestep the sandbox.

sandpetra

6:01 pm on Mar 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I think if you are building a directory it should be a niche - and be connected to 100 (example) information pages on the site about your niche - not just a website full of links.

Does sound like new website filters.