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I am aware that Wikipedia is one of the most popular sites hence almost every first page search result at Google will return a Wikipedia page. But as a SE Optimizer, I find that this is very irritating. I have a few keyword dot com sites with decent traffic (about 30,000 page views per month) that appeared on top of Yahoo! and MSN but are in second or third page result at Google. And some of these sites were created before Wikipedia pages.
Don't you find that Google ranking of Wikipedia entries a little bit exaggerating? Since almost every search made at Google will return a Wikipedia page, why can't Google dedicate a special link to Wikipedia instead? Almost every internet user knows about Wikipedia. If we want to find something from Wikipedia, we can go directly to Wikipedia. We don't need Google.
Personally, since Wikipedia founder is now in the process of creating a rival search engine, I think it is now the right time for Google to dump Wikipedia first page result at Google. Why? Google shouldn't make the same mistake like Yahoo! when Yahoo was powered by Google search engine. :D
Personally, I have nothing against Wikipedia or its founders. I think they are great people. I am just disappointed that some of my sites could have been in the page one result but they are in page 2 or 3 because of Wikipedia. If your sites are at number 11 or 21 at Google, you will know what I meant.
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what does this have to do with anything? isn't G supposed to bring the best pages--as they see them--upfront regardless of who made them?
I get that it is a good resource however it's painful seeing my pages being messed around by Google whilst Wikipedia remains at #1 regardless. There are several other big sites which dominate the SERP's in such a way.
I'm fine with Wikipedia articles appear near the top of SERP's (better that then some of the other spam style sites that occupy the deeper SERP's) I just wish I was given a bit more credit for my efforts (which generally go above and beyond the short Wikipedia articles that outrank me.
What Google doesn't do well is differentiate between perceived and actual authority - "if it's Wikipedia it must be great because everyone and his/her dog links to it", even though this might mean an amateurish / incomplete / inaccurate stub pushing a truly authoritative page down the SERPs.
I used to dabble in Wikipedia, but have come to realise the time and effort is better spent creating my own authoritative site on my specialist subjects. Not just for the money ;-), but to counter what is increasingly becoming a "Wikipedia monoculture".
BTW not only google - Yahoo and MSN beginning from this autumn shows Wikipedia amoung first 3 for most comtetitieve terms in my area also.
The idea about a special link - perhaps similar to definition (which I think goes to answers which uses wiki info anyway) - I think is an excellent idea.
I've thought for a while Google doesnt need to organise the worlds info any more - Wiki does that just fine.
It's just annoying to see them using similar data (in some cases data from my pages) and gain the top spot so easily whilst I'm left to wait for domains to age and to swallow Google throwing my pages out of their results as they please.
I don't depend on my sites for revenue or business otherwise I would be more concerned. I guess one of the benefits of wikipedia is that if you manage to get your sites into the articles you will retain traffic even if your site takes a hit in the SERP's.
[edited by: Idris at 12:24 pm (utc) on Jan. 10, 2007]
I have a site about a tropical island, and I am often amazed that some sites which offer virtually _nothing_ in terms of content (one is www.world66.com/, sorry to name names) are up there on the first page of results. The rationale seems to be that this is a 'great site' so put it up there regardless of actual content. Same applies to some of the big travel sites (tripadvisor springs to mind). Of course, because Google backs them it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. These sites start with nothing but gradually attract visitors because they are high in the results.
As a user - I dont find Wiki all that good - there is always a complete website dedicated to that specific topic with much more comprehensive information than the one some bozo cut-and-pasted to get a link back. So what if the website sells products or run adsence? Even better - they would have at least researched the content - where I could go right now and make up some info about almost anything on Wiki, and as long as I dont mess with the external links, chances are, that post will be there for a long, long time.
Just another Dmoz if you ask me - good idea, but now everyone is trying to become an editor (with "credentials") so they can post long-term links.