The PR7 mystery

Site with PR 7 not in Google

[bookdjs]

I know someone with a site whose index page has a PR 7. He has over 1600 links in google, and no idea how he got them. He knows nothing about SEO and didn't get the links himself, he doesn't even come up in Google. Does anyone know how this could have happened?

[kirst]

Hijacking is very popular from beginners. :-)

[bookdjs]

Hijacking?

[Rollo]

That is a mystery... I think it would be hard to hijack a strong PR7. Maybe the site tiggered a filter and got burried. Does it get any traffic? Is it a directory? Google purged a lot of these recently.

[oddsod]

>> I think it would be hard to hijack a strong PR7

I'm not too sure about that. Google's spin is that PR matters with 302 hijacks and that the higher PR page wins out. I've seen numerous instances where it didn't. Still doesn't. When it did happen to the Adsense page Google claimed it was a bug ... giving the impression it was an isolated incident. Many webmasters believe otherwise.

[Rollo]

Right, that's what I mean... you'd need a PR 8 hijacker. I'd hazard a guess and say that most sites with a PR8 wouldn't want to get involved in shady practices like that ;-)

[eflouret]

I posted some time ago about some domains I let die and they were parked at GoDaddy with high page rank (7 or so). It was some dns bug or something that made them show with a high page rank. I wouldn't let them die if they had such a high PR!

There are some other tricks to raise artificially your PR and they were discussed at this site previously.

Perhaps that's the case. Of course, this fake PR is totally useless.

Enrique

[texasville]

How long has he had this domain? Possible that it was previously a legitimate pr7 someone dumped?
And, oh yeah..how about a link..lol..

[pontifex]

That "fake" PR7 is very common for mirror sites. If you run an Apache, Sendmail, Postfix, etc. (check thru the popular open source sites) mirror, you will get the same PR like the source of the mirror and Google even shows you the same backlinks... but it is not your domain that got it for calculation, its the mirror...

P!

[oddsod]

>> He has over 1600 links in google

It may not be fake PR at all.

>> Right, that's what I mean... you'd need a PR 8 hijacker.

That's exactly what I didn't mean. My point is that you don't need high PR to hijack someone, a PR0 will do. I have more than one example of a PR6 page (genuine PR6, has been PR6 through several updates) being hijacked by an (almost) scraper type PR0 page. Hijacking exists and, despite Google's protestations, their handling of 302 is a big dog's breakfast.

[bookdjs]

It's a website for a record label. The guy has only owned the domain for 11 months.

[selomelo]

I have a single-page (index)site with a PR6. Even before I activated it, i.e., when it existed only in name and long before it was indexed by G its PR was 5. The domain name was registered in late May.

To test it, I just bought a cheap hosting plan, and added only an index page. Its PR rose to 6 with apparently some dosens of IBLs.

The curious thing is that pages listed by google as referring to the said page do not contain any link to it at all! And the PR6 survived the last update!

And now, I am contemplating on the possibility of launching it as a full-fletched site if its PR survives another PR update.