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The offending site was not only using adsense but was actually listed in Google's index and this was a pretty blatant spam site. Totally worthless of any value whatsoever.
Anyway, I clicked the link and adsense is no longer present. HOOORAY!
One down, two to do.
I check google and the domain is no longer visible.
HOOORAY AGAIN!
Thank you.
I've submitted a lot of spam reports both for sites listed in google and for spam sites not listed but using adsense and this is the first response I've received back HOWEVER, one is better than none and I'm glad to see that they are working on the problem!
Google’s response was they preferred to deal with the spam through future changes to their algo. Adsense’s response was they saw absolutely nothing wrong with the mirror doorway pages. Each of the pages contain a sentence of text plus two row’s of Adsense. Adsense recommended I report it to their search function.
Bottom line is I’m sure the spammer appreciates Google’s approach to the matter. I’ll give the spammer credit though, they are the best I've seen.
Google’s response was they preferred to deal with the spam through future changes to their algo. Adsense’s response was they saw absolutely nothing wrong with the mirror doorway pages.
And this is precisely why merchants are moving away from using adsense. I've found way too many of our own ads on non relavent spammy sites.
"Google's response was they preferred to deal with the spam through future changes to their algo. Adsense's response was they saw absolutely nothing wrong with the mirror doorway pages. Each of the pages contain a sentence of text plus two rows of Adsense. Adsense recommended I report it to their search function."
That doesn't sound encouraging at all. I recall our good friend Matt Cutts indicating recently that Google WebSpam Team is paying more attention to spam reporting.
[edited by: tedster at 7:45 am (utc) on Sep. 13, 2006]
Over the past few weeks I've reported a few absolutely useless sites with garbage content and AdSense ads. Today I checked all of them, and the ads are still there.
I don't want to hear a speech. I want to see results.
After a while we should see good results and big spammers are history in no-time.
To see evidence that Google is already well aware of sites that are made for AdSense, go to google.com, put the word "adsense" in the search box, and hit Enter. When you get the search results, look at the ads on the right side of the page.
Google makes a lot of money from MFA sites.
I could be wrong, but as far as I know, no Google employee (some of whom are paid to monitor some of the forums on this site) has ever replied to a thread on here complaining about MFA sites.
It's easy to find by "Klimaxanlage"
I reported it July 7, it disappeared after some days
I reported it in August, it disappeared again
I reported it 2 days ago, it increased from 8300 to 10100
Feedback: Webspam in 2006?
[mattcutts.com ]
One of the problems is that G is clearly making big money from MFA sites. Anyone who is using G can see that they are still a significant percentage of the results. Non street wise searchers arrive at a likely looking link, they open it and see no content, just Adsense ads. They then have to consider starting again or just clicking one of the ads, which will mostly look really relevant to their search. Guess what they will do? (I have done it myself).
The spammers know that it pays not to have content on their sites. They know that less content means more Adsense clicks. I think they also know that if G were to take swift and drastic action against them their profits and hence their stock price would nosedive.
Don't be evil :(
What makes this so frustrating is that other than the issues described in this thread, I see Google as being a great bunch of people that are doing really great things that really do make the world a better place.
Heck, I'm so happy with the results of the AdSense ads on my site that I bought a couple of Google T-shirts.
We all have to compromise to some extent. I can't help but think that Google is constanty working on solving problems. And in all fairness, their not revealing everything is often a good business policy.
I totally agree with your last post. AdWords advertisers should be given the ability to opt out of parked domains without opting out of all content sites. One of the reasons I stopped advertising via AdWords was because of the parked domain I'll be damned if I'm going to help fund the enemy.
Yes, I too think we should be able to opt out of parked domains.
I use the following tactics to deal with them:
1) Lots of negative keywords for referrals that I see coming only from parked domains.
2) Putting the parked domains in my comp-ad filter ANYWAY even though I know that they may be ignored by the ad placement algorithm, as a signal to G that those domains suck like a king-size catfish in a sewage works. Please excuse my British.
Rgds
Damon
Those site funnel all traffic from yahoo and msn to Google ads. Why would they shot themselves in a foot by killing them.
Why would they shot themselves in a foot by killing them.
I think they also know that if G were to take swift and drastic action against them their profits and hence their stock price would nosedive.
Any loss of revenue from the disappearance of nickel-and-dime (or penny-and-tuppence) MFAs would be offset over time by more business from legitimate advertisers. The greater risk for Google is letting the MFA bottom-feeders define the meaning of "Ads by Google." If that phrase becomes a synonym for "spam" or "junk," users--and higher-paying advertisers--will be turned off, and Google's profits will suffer.
Google has shown that it's capable of taking the long view, and that it's willing to sacrifice short-term revenues for long-term growth. (Need proof? Look no further than the imposition of tough "quality scoring" of landing pages from Google Search ads, which has removed some advertisers from the AdWords pool.)
With this approach, my success rate has been very high, I estimate above 60%.
Imagine the Google engineer (Matt Cutts and friends) sitting on the other side. He receives numerous spam reports per day. Many spam reports are just from e-business owners who want to hurt the site of their competitors and spammers who want to frustrate the spam report system. the Google engineer has to sift through the submissions and decide which ones are genuine and which ones not. Having a detailed description of the violation and a trace back to the submitter adds to the probability that the Google engineer will take the submission serious and take action.
Any loss of revenue from the disappearance of nickel-and-dime (or penny-and-tuppence) MFAs would be offset over time by more business from legitimate advertisers.
Methinks you may be underestimating the contribution that the income from these sites makes to Google'$ coffers. ;)
Methinks you may be underestimating the contribution that the income from these sites makes to Google'$ coffers. ;)
I have no doubt that income from those sites is useful to Google's bottom line, but untapped markets are likely to be even more tempting--and ultimately more profitable.
Google's response was they preferred to deal with the spam through future changes to their algo.
They have no other choice. Eliminating spam by hand makes as much sense as adding and deleting sites to your index by hand, ala DMOZ.
You can delete 1000 spam sites today without changing the algo, and 10,000 sites (203fsad.info, 3492fsd.net, 45dfwer.biz...) will crop up tomorrow exploiting the same loophole in the algorithm.
You can delete 1000 spam sites today without changing the algo, and 10,000 sites (203fsad.info, 3492fsd.net, 45dfwer.biz...) will crop up tomorrow exploiting the same loophole in the algorithm.
I don't think anyone was suggesting that they don't try to fix things with their algo. However they should manually delete offenders who are reported until the algo is fixed.
