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Well, I have a new website, with about 30000 indexable pages (I update the Sitemap everyday) and I wonder if "high" PR links (5, 6, 7...) can help to index my whole site faster.
I've included my site in directories, I've made link exchanges... But I only have about one hundred pages in Google (site:miwebsite.com).
I want to index (all) the pages as soon as possible, so I've decided to buy text links. Am I right? Can this help me to index my website? How long would it take (consider the PR)? How many links must I buy?
My website is developed in Spanish. English websites links can help?
Thanks!
Thanks again.
Instead, base your buy on the site being on topic and being of good quality. Remove the PR feature of your google toolbar now.
I would find 10 on topic, quality sites, of the same language and buy them.
[edited by: JeremyL at 9:33 pm (utc) on Sep. 10, 2006]
I completely disagree. PR is no longer the be-all, end-all, but it can certain make a difference in ranking, in addition to indexing.
However, getting links not just from high PR pages, but from highly relevant pages, is critically important.
Best of all possible worlds: Get lots of links from all sorts of relavant pages/sites. If you focus mainly on PR, you will be at a competitive disadvantage.
I'm sure Google is actively pursuing every means they can to discover links that are not natural, relevant links. For example, wanna bet whether Google (via proxy companies) are themselves a major buyer of links from such services?
Say, they sign-up with all the major services, multiple accounts per service, set up some sham MFA sites (to make it look "legit"), combine all the links (theirs, and the ones they bought) into a database.
Now, your site has too many hits in the database, you are history. Of course, if they find even ONE of their own sham-site links, you'd be gone sooner.
That's what I'd do if I were them, anyway. But, then again Google are a bunch of PhD eggheads, and they might not think like me...
Buying links is the one sure way to - eventually - drop your rank to zero and get your domain permanently banned.
What is your source for this information?
What is your source for this information?
Common sense. Something apparently in short supply...
Black-hat SEO (and buying links is certainly black-hat SEO) is a huge risk. The search engines are constantly expanding their bag of tricks for discovering black-hat SEO.
The big risk is that if you get caught, it is more likely than not that you then have a permanent ban, or at least one that is going to take one heck of a lot of good karma to reverse.
You may not get caught today - but as evidenced by the threads here full of moaning about wave after wave of updates that catch more and more in the net - you WILL get caught tomorrow.
Matt Cutts has said, worse case the links will not benefit you.
If you keep the "Advertising" you buy themed to your site. You wil be fine.
Buying links as advertisting is not Black Hat SEO.
Anything posted on this board is nothing but "ASSUMPTIONS" by the posters.
Read and use the stuff posted at your own risk.
If you keep the "Advertising" you buy themed to your site. You wil be fine.
Buying links!= buying advertising.
I'd suggest visiting the SEO forum on this site, for some more-informed opinion.
Nonsense is more like it. You can buy links all day long (it's called advertising). The burden is not on those who purchase links but on those who sell links as they may have their ability to pass reputation stripped (ability to pass PR stripped).
If all the incoming links are to the index page, googlebot has to find the links from your index page, which could take many months.
With a few strategic deep links, and good internal navigation, you can greatly speed up the process.
PR is not dead.
What is your source for this information?
Common sense. Something apparently in short supply...
Either I have been really lucky for about 5 years, or buying links has no effects on the banning of any of our sites. I would suspect the second choice is more accurate. Buying links is advertising, and websites would be banned left and right if all it took was placing links on a so called 'link seller' page.
Matt Cutts has said several times that those who SELL links risk losing the ability to pass PR. He's also said that IBL shouldn't hurt you. And, third, he's said that those who sell advertising should use "nofollow". Put those all together and it means the burden is on the link seller, not the link buyer.
Well, I have a new website, with about 30000 indexable pages
I want to index (all) the pages as soon as possible,
That is.
Buying too many links may not be good business sense. i.e. the cost.
However, it certainly won't hurt you.
Have you also tried operator (site:www.miwebsite.com) to see whether part of your site is indexed under the www version too?
I agree with Aforum that the main problem would be uploading 30.000 pages without risking your site being sandboxed.
You may wish to view this thread Matt Cutts: Adding Too Many URLs Triggers A Flag! [webmasterworld.com]
You are better off working a deal with a few bloggers to blog about your new site. You will get a better benefit from it!
You are better off working a deal with a few bloggers to blog about your new site. You will get a better benefit from it!
Buying links is, (as several have said) buying advertising.
There seems to be some confusion here about the term "buying links". So, first, I think we have to go back to the original poster and ask, "what do you mean by that?"
To me, "buying links" isn't the same as advertising. Some here seem to be equating "buying links" with buying advertising through ad networks, such as Google Adwords, etc.
There are places where you can buy links - not advertisements - that will be put in spammy places. The sites where the links will be placed often exist for no other purpose than to hold links that hopefully will be crawled by search engines.
I still insist that buying those kind of links will ultimately be harmful to your site - if not now, then in the future.
stay away from sites that say they will give you 500 backlinks for 50/month kind of thing.
point the links to sub pages not just your homepage. IE deep links
if you do this then you should be fine.
1) Get links, if possible, from high PR authority sites whose themes are related to yours and are in the same language. The only reason I mention PR here is that authority sites tend to have good PR.
2) Don't be in a hurry. Build the number of links gradually, so that the process will seem "natural" to G (as though the webmasters of those sites had individually discovered your site and decided that it was of great value).
3) Try to get links from the homepage (assuming that page doesn't already have 100 outbound links) and point them to pages deep inside your site to draw the bots to your inner pages.
4) There's no great harm in buying links, as long as you do it judiciously. If there were, bad guys could wipe out their enemies by simply buying a bunch of links on a spammy site and pointing them to a competitor's site.
5) Don't get too excited about exchanging links. I am of the opinion that G has begun de-valuing reciprocal linking (to what degree? I have no idea).
Good luck to you.
Most of what I'm saying has already been said above, but i'm trying to encapsulate it for you.
Thanks again.
