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Yesterday the website totally disappeared from the google.co.uk index although it is still ranked position 3 in the SERPS on google.com.
It is difficult to avoid the conclusion that the disappearance from the UK index is a result of a change in Google's algorithm or some other failure at Google's end.
My questions are:
1. Why has Google dropped the site from its UK index?
2. Is Google likely to drop the site from the google.com index?
3. What can we do to get it back in the uK index?
Anyone got any ideas?
I assume they are now looking differently at their GEO filtering. If so then no you shouldn't be dropped from the .com index
This filter os obviously not working correctly since legitimate UK sites can not be found. I have faith that Google will sort this soon.
However i did hear something that they also now look at the IBL's and where they are actually located so it could be that your friend and oursevles have too many non UK based inbound links?
You are right in thinking that my friend's URL is not .uk, it is .com. You are also right in that there are new factors at work here - clearly the algorithm has changed.
The IBLs to my friend's site are almost all from UK servers and IP addresses but interestingly there are several outbound links on his index.htm all to .com websites in the US. I now think that this is what must have confused Google.
Do you also have outgoing links to non-UK websites?
you MUST have a UK TLD or a UK IP address
UK IP address is not new, but UK tld would be a new requirement. However I don't think that the tld by itself is the answer.
I manage about 60 sites all based in the UK and all use a mix of .coms, .nets and .co.uks.
Some .coms are still ranking fine (i.e. top 3 for medium competitive terms) but others are gone.
The tld might be a factor, but it's not the only one. If it were this would be grossly unfair to sites that have been around since the internet began. I think that more than one factor is at play here, and that location of IBLs might have a lot to do with it.
Added : I also think that this might be a blunder at Google or that their UK index is being filled by a 5 billion page spammer. For every site I've checked so far that has vanished, their index and other pages are not in the UK index. Anyone else noticing this?
[edited by: fishfinger at 9:03 am (utc) on Aug. 16, 2006]
[edited by: shogun_ro at 9:12 am (utc) on Aug. 16, 2006]
Have a .co.uk hosted in UK with UK IP.
Had about 8000 unique pages in Google. Over the last week, 2000 or so dropped out, and another 2000 dropped out today (or yesterday). All my pages are disappearing! Help!
It's no difference at Google.com - same deal!?
I haven't done anything spammy at all, not even touched it.
I have just checked the 65 sites I manage. Not one of them links out from their home page. Here is what I have seen.
Ten .coms and 3 .nets are affected. For all of these they have had their index page removed from the UK index.
Not a single .co.uk site is affected and many .coms are also unaffected.
I optimise all my sites the same way and I also get links from the same places.
Many sites that are ranking fine were only re-cached in the last few days.
The mroe I look at this the more I begin to think that Google has a problem and it is not something I have or have not done.
Try searching for your terms at a datacentre IP - some UK ones:
Would I be correct in assuming that your results here are ok?
Fishfinger - I'm in agreement. This is not making a lot of sense and I think there may be a problem at Google's end.
I've also found that internal pages are ranking fine on the affected sites - in other words if the page is in the index it's not affected.
So it looks less like a penalty and more like a bug to me.
[edited by: fishfinger at 12:06 pm (utc) on Aug. 16, 2006]
"Not one of them links out from their home page"
My case is as I said.
IMO all this changes on SERP post 27 june is becouse of link schemes.
Is important who link to you,from where and who get the link from you(your vote for others).If it's natural everithing is ok,if is artificial,not OK.
If a SPAM site link to you and you link back without knowledge,You lost SERP.
I don't think it can be a matter of IBL location or, following on from what fishfinger says, an outgoing link issue. I doubt therefore that this is primarily a link issue at all.
Our index.htm is missing from the UK index but other pages are included. Consulting the datacenters as TheVisitor suggests, our index.htm is listed on
but not on
This really does look like a Google bug to me. Removing a completely bona fide and highly-ranked UK website from the UK SERPS while leaving it highly-ranked in the global SERPS is clearly inconsistent - and so must be an error.
Have a look at the geopositioning for the site - i.e. where is your host located - I guess its not in the UK
The affected sites are hosted across four different UK servers; I know this for certain because its our hosting and the DCs are all in the UK.
I also have other sites on these servers that are unaffected.
I don't think it can be a matter of IBL location
In my experience with these so called Bugs is that they take an age to be acknowledged and even longer if at all to be fixed.
To be honest whilst looking at my serps for my market place i would have to agree that they are good - the other top nine that where previously there are still there now - its only me thats lost out and of course i am a relevant site to the UK market which for four years Google has agreed until now.
I have a few outbounds to US sites on a small links page so may change this and see what affect it has.
However you often see on shopping sites aimed at one regional market that they say something like "US Visitor then visit our partner site at something.com" and vice versa for the US sites. So I doubt that the links are causing it but its worth a go.
I have to say that the concept of physical locations of IBLs or outbound link destinations affecting SERPS (especially to the extent of homepages disappearing) is ridiculous - with the hosting market as global as it is, why would Google use this information as a marker? I can't think of a single reason.
Keyword is competitive 10 millions results.
It rank 3'th for romanian search on google.ro,hl=ro and 1'st on google.com,hl=en.
Under me all sites have ro TLD's hosted on ro servers.
I have inbound links from both romanian and english content sites.
I removed all outbound links even from links page.
As I said it's all about links schemes.
We made no significant changes to the site and no changes at all to our links prior to the dropout from the UK index. We made no further changes and yet we now find ourselves back at number 3 in the UK SERPS.
The changes have all been at Google's end - it's a Google foul-up.
Pre-27 June, our sites were based on USA servers, and now they are based on UK servers (this was just an unfortunate coincidence, planned well before the 27-June update fiasco)
We DO now see our SERPs on google.co.uk to be much better than before 27 June, and our SERPs on google.com are (mostly) as before 27 June as well.
ONE THING: We have seen "fiascos" before, but NONE have taken so long to recover (7 weeks)! Previous "fiascos" took only 3-4 weeks to correct.