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Possible penalities with google?

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9:35 pm on Jul 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hello.

My site is 10 months old, and has about 300 pages indexed by google.

I haven't updated it for 3 months because I didn't have time, and this week I decided to delete everything and start a new site from the beginning (on the same domain).

Will google penalize me because all 300 indexed pages no longer exist?

My new site will be on the same topic, better SEO optimized and daily updated.

8:01 am on July 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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IMHO you will, at least, go straight to the sandbox, and stay there for a wile. I 'll rather buy a new domain and start over keeping in mind dup content etc..
8:55 am on July 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Will google penalize me because all 300 indexed pages no longer exist?

I would not delete the pages, rather redirect them to your homepage.

9:27 am on July 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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If possible use the same file names in your new site and keep the old files up on the server until you substitute them.
10:12 am on July 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Will google penalize me because all 300 indexed pages no longer exist?

I would honestly leave it alone. Tweak the layout, style etc, but keep the URL's alive.

Then just add to it.

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12:52 pm on July 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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We have deleted our old site back in January.
We kept our old domain name, but deleted all of our pages and redesigned them with new url's.
We are in deep trouble with Google, listing only a small part of our website and can not get them to index our entire site.
Mostly pages that where similar to to our old site is not listed, however, they have different paragraph contents and different meta tags and titles.
Does this mean we are sandboxed? Is thier anything we can do to get out of this big mess?
1:12 pm on July 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Radical changes to a site's navigation and structure - especially new sites - can seriously damage your Google rankings.

Much better for new sites to wait, and for existing sites to restructure in sections, giving Google time to assimilate one lot of new files before removing others.

Where removals have to happen, a 301 forward to new pages or domain.com can reduce the risk of Google throwing a wobbly.

Where possible, change content rather than whole files; a renamed file, to Google, is one new file and one deleted file. And much the same applies to folders.

In all cases, evolution is preferable to revolution; for new sites, revolution often leads to decapitation - at least on a temporary basis. ;)

2:09 pm on July 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Why not just restrict the crawl of the old site with robots.txt
After that you can add any kind of redirect in the old site to the new site.
3:00 pm on July 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The problem with this is, are other websites linking to your inside pages? If you delete these urls to make new urls you will lose the links.

I did what you are suggesting during the winter when traffic was low. I rebuilt the pages in css and renamed the inside urls. This site is also about 300 pages.

The trick is to only do a section at a time, let the old urls 404 and wait till they get respidered.

Once you see they are respidered, then do another section.

Do NOT rename your index page, and after you redo a section make sure all the links are working.

Good Luck

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"In all cases, evolution is preferable to revolution; for new sites, revolution often leads to decapitation - at least on a temporary basis. ;)"

Temporary basis-we are suffering ever since April 27th, at first our new redesigned site has been indexed in full. As of April 27th our pages indexed have dropped drastically, and has not recovered ever since.

Is it possible that we are being penalized for a different cause and very likely has no relationship with our site being redesigned?

All of our pages have unique meta tags, titles and description, with unique paragraph contents. The body contents of our pages are not that unique, is it possible for Google to consider similar body contents as duplicate pages?

3:40 pm on July 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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File name changes are especially a problem. Even with the same content it can take months to get back. I found out the hard way. Changing the name of your index page can screw up everything.
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We had a few spamming issues with our domain name on our previous site. We have worked with a SEO company at that time and where recommended to do a site redesign for optimization purposes.

Our company wanted to change domain and start fresh. Our seo company though it was a bad idea, rather they asked us to stick to our old domain and change the entire structure.

So what you are telling us now is, we would of been better off if we change to a new domain?

8:05 pm on July 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for your advices.

I will use the same domain. I'm hoping I wouldn't get in trouble because I won't use any of the old content, so there will not be content duplicates.
I'm starting again slowly with new content articles.