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alexdo

7:02 pm on May 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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hi to all off google watchers

I see a huge changes in google serps across all the google datacenters in europe and asia but US serps are the same...

A few of my site goes up and a few goes down

Did you see the same changes?

Thanks

Alex

europeforvisitors

8:22 pm on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)



Sounds exactly like what happened to a site of mine a couple months ago. The top 30 sites are all sites that link to mine . Some are krappy low PR link pages. Some are decent sites like the DMOZ listing with my link on it.

Maybe this is a continuation of whatever happened back then

In the last couple of months, huge template-driven sites have done extremely well in my sector. (Sometimes the page have no content other than a title, a headline, and "Post a review.") I wonder if Google isn't giving too much weight to the sheer number of pages in a domain. That might account for why you're seeing scraper sites do so well.

aleksl

8:26 pm on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)



I'll have to scrape by without any Google traffic until Larry and Sergei come to their senses

<speculation>
Larry and Sergei no longer run the show. Last time I checked (last videoconference I've seen), Sergei was responsible for some HR-retention-human capital, your typical "boss's wife" responsibility. Whoever runs the show will make you and me and Johnny-boy and Sally-girl to get by.
</speculation>

Still no traffic from Google$ across 7 of my pure-original-content sites, the oldest of which was #1 in Directory untill some 2 months ago, when it disappeared.

Google$ stinks.

arubicus

8:31 pm on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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How old is your oldest one?

Is it completely gone or just url only?

2 months ago we lost everything.

Only about 50 of the pages remained with title and descriptions which were mostly old 301 redirects being thrown back into the results.

Another 100 just title.

We have thousands of pages.

We are still trying to recover. Just bit by bit we are slowly on our way back.

[edited by: arubicus at 8:35 pm (utc) on May 17, 2005]

aleksl

8:34 pm on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)



How old is your oldest one?

It is 2.5 years old, used to be top of the directory category and #1 in traffic in the niche. Also, It used to have the highest PR in category. Main page is gone from Google, which is pretty much same as ban. Main page should've been PR7 (so you guessed it, site is no fluke).

Actually, with this today's chage a few subdirectory pages were downgraded from PR6 to PR5. But nothing surprises me anymore.

We get over 50 visitors a day from 6 different SEs. So far, if I compare absolute monthly traffic 2 months ago and today, 5 SEs are up (some over 100% increase), Google$ traffic is down 97%.

[edited by: aleksl at 8:38 pm (utc) on May 17, 2005]

arubicus

8:36 pm on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Ouch.

Our main page when we got dumped went to url only.

It is a 4 year old site that never does anything but create content and minor on page seo stuff. That is it. Everything else (links and such) come naturally. No cloaking. No nothing.

The google loss came to about 1/4 of a million visitors per month since then.

[edited by: arubicus at 8:45 pm (utc) on May 17, 2005]

oldpro

8:42 pm on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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So much for obeying the Google Guidelines for webmasters. Seems like the creators of the 15 above me never read it. Not one validates, crappy backlinks, all but one have much lower PR than mine, none have sitemaps, a couple of scrapers, etc. Unbelivable...from 6 to 15.

aleksl

8:46 pm on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)



Well, one friend of mine if loosing $1000 per day compared to his April numbers, thanks to Google$ dumping his sites.

The other guy came over last week, his startup ecommerce store lost all free traffic from Google$. He could tolerate that, but 3 days ago Yahoo was changing something, and he went to basically 0 orders for 3 days.

Basically, you can say one of 2 things: either
* you souldn't base your profitability on free traffic, OR
* Google$ is squeezing all free-loader sites out of SERPs.

Yesterday I ran into a SEPR that was so bad I haven't seen this from Google in years. Someone basically had a bunch of pages with Title, Header and a text as one phrase. I'd say 18 of top 20 SERP results were this site with the same phrase with different word combinations in the same phrase. I bet he's got tons of traffic now :)

arubicus

8:47 pm on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Heck you may as well publish about 20 crap sites anymore so that you can diversify that way also.

221b

8:47 pm on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My site finally made it to top 10(Just to post something positive in here).

arubicus

8:50 pm on May 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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That is because mine isn't there. Just to post something negative here.

Actually I am not worried. Got enough traffic from all over to keep us going. We are slowly making our way back and that is all I can ask for.

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