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How do you get two pages listed under the one result?

What's Google's criteria

         

sparticus

12:13 am on Mar 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Just wondering if anyone knows what criteria Google uses to determine when a site gets two pages listed under the one result - ie. when another page is listed as an indented result under the first one.

mrMister

1:52 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If two pages from the same domain are relevant enough to rank on the same google results page for the given query then both pages will be grouped together.

sparticus

11:25 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'm just wondering because a site I work with has had two pages listed in the one result for the last year or so and has suddenly dropped back to one, even though nothing has changed. There doesn't seem to be much method to Google's madness, but when is there ever..

WA_Smith

11:37 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Seems you need two pages in the top ten ... IE you have one page at spot 4 and the other at spot 10, then you get spots 4 and 5 ... if you have three pages the third does not show up.

I've also notice an increase click through rate with a double entry, with good titles and description (careful use of keyword density to get the right snippets). I would trade double entries for the number 1 stop for most of the my keywords but that may just be me.

sparticus

11:54 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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By jove that's it - the site I'm talking about now has a listing at number 11 - I guess that's the page that used to be underneath the other one. It has dropped out of the top ten most relevant results so doesn't appear as in indent.

Thanks for that response, I think you've nailed it.

MHes

9:34 am on Mar 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Not quite...

>Seems you need two pages in the top ten

You need two pages within the first page. If you set your prefs to show 100 results you will get them put together even if one is position 5 and one position 20. The rule is dependant on your preferences.

mrMister

9:51 am on Mar 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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You need two pages within the first page.

They don't have to be in the first page. They can be on any page.

Is my first post invisible or something? ;-)

sparticus

10:04 am on Mar 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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OK then, you seem to be correct, but on another note, the grouping seems to be limited to two results per website. If I'm correct, why is that the case? Why can't you have three or more?

mrMister

10:16 am on Mar 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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the grouping seems to be limited to two results per website. If I'm correct, why is that the case? Why can't you have three or more?

It's not quite like that. The default view only shows two web sites per group. If more are relevant, google shows the others as well if the &filter=0 option is on. Users can see these sites by clicking "more results from domain.dom"

Here's an example:

[google.com...]

[google.com...]

I guess Google doesn't want sites hogging the full results page. It wouldn't be much help to users if they search for something and only one web site is returned, they might not be relevant to their search.

Imagine if they searched for "Paris Hilton" and the first few pages of the SERPS were pages about a hotel!

coconutz

10:40 am on Mar 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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They don't have to be in the first page. They can be on any page.

They do need to be on the same page in order to be grouped (indented). We have many listings on page one (#1) and page 2 (#11). If I change my preferences to 20, 30, 50 or 100 results per page, this places both results on the same page and results in the clustering (indented result).
See message #5.

mrMister

10:53 am on Mar 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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They don't have to be in the first page. They can be on any page.

They do need to be on the same page in order to be grouped (indented).

Please read the whole thread. It's confusing enough as it is.

Of course all grouped items have to be on the same page! How could Google group two items that appear in different pages?!

The statement that you (mis)quoted refers to a previous comment where someone said that the grouping only happens on the first page. That was incorrect.

sparticus

11:10 am on Mar 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

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mrMister, you've answered the question perfectly, and your Paris Hilton example sums it up neatly. Thank you - case closed.

WA_Smith

2:56 am on Mar 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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forgive me for creating confusion ... I normally only think in terms of the first page with the default search engine setting / Preferences.

mrMister post is technically accurate.