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Google Being Hypocritical?



7:42 pm on Sep 28, 2011 (gmt 0)

Look at googles response to this. Are they being hypocritical or is it just me with a sense of isnt google+ just a slimy copy of facebook? Innovation? I cant think of anything else google has NOT innovated on - but just copied. Oh - yes - the whole internet. Sorry I forgot :)

News from - [techcrunch.com...]

Earlier today, Microsoft and Samsung disclosed that they reached a cross-licensing agreement over patents. The key point: it’s a bad blow to the notion that Android is free. Instead, it’s more like “free” with huge Android OEM partners like HTC and now Samsung agreeing to pay Microsoft to use Android. Google must be pissed off.

And they are. Here’s their statement:

“This is the same tactic we’ve seen time and again from Microsoft. Failing to succeed in the smartphone market, they are resorting to legal measures to extort profit from others’ achievements and hinder the pace of innovation. We remain focused on building new technology and supporting Android partners.”


7:46 pm on Sep 28, 2011 (gmt 0)

Can anyone draw up a list of ideas google has blatently stolen/bought/copied - I would like to publish it (the list) around the internet.



8:08 pm on Sep 28, 2011 (gmt 0)

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In that respect, isn't Facebook a copy of Myspace? Myspace a copy of Friendster? Friendster a copy of Six Degrees? Six Degress a copy of Classmates.com? Innovation isn't necessarily about inventing the wheel. Chrome is indeed another web browser, Gmail another webmail service, Google another search engine, but their innovativeness lies in the fact that they're doing it better. That's the way innovation (and remediation) works: you always build upon previous innovations.

While Microsoft's approach to the smartphone market has been rather awkward, I agree that Google's statement here is a bit sentimental, to say the least.


4:58 am on Sep 29, 2011 (gmt 0)

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@robzilla, Google definitely reinvented search in a good way, many years ago. I might also credit Adsense as innovative, much as I hate it - the idea sounded smart and worked for a time.

But since then, they've just used those services' dominance to push out bad copies of other people's ideas and have them take over the web through sheer force:

--Gmail ran a number of superior free email providers into the ground, just because it had the force of Google behind it. All the seemingly innovative Gmail ideas had been done before by companies with less muscle.
--Google Reader is pretty good, but the main reason it took over was that Google could afford to throw a ton of bandwidth at it, and competitors could not.
--Google Places is a joke.
--Buzz was a disaster at the start, and still hasn't taken off.
--+1 looks likely to go the same way.
--Google bought Feedburner, and what had been a fantastic service quickly became a joke.
--Analytics is okay, but the main reason anybody uses it is because knowing what Google sees in your sites is so essential
--Webmaster Tools is really nothing BUT a glimpse into how Google sees your sites

If you borrow other people's ideas and then add some cool new twist, that's innovation. If you borrow their ideas and simply throw way the heck more capital at them than any 6 other companies put together could possibly come up with, that's just stealing ideas and making a go of it because you're so rich. Happens all the time in business - Google is not unique in that. But no, I'm not seeing any innovation since the early days.


8:42 am on Sep 29, 2011 (gmt 0)

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... but their innovativeness lies in the fact that they're doing it better. That's the way innovation (and remediation) works: you always build upon previous innovations.

I think the jury is still out on that one. They may not even be the best at search now.

Google has made pig's ears of many things over the years and most of them have come from Mountain View as opposed to those that they just hoover up on demand.

Google uses their dominance to push whatever they want into the public eye. It is all about dominance as opposed to innovation. If you have dominance at Google's level you can do just about anything you want.

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