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MSN has done an excellent job of spidering my site. However, when I search for certain keywords that are on deep pages, I cannot even make the top 250. When I look at those outranking me, they have relatively "flat" website structures.
I have seen this time and time again, and it even happens on my website. When I run a new article on the home page (along with six other articles), my home page ranks surprisingly well for some pretty competitive terms. When that article moves off the home page, it has trouble ranking at all.
It does not make sense that a three sentence paragraph should outrank an 900 word article dedicated to the topic. I would think that as time goes on, these inner pages should start to rank better (fingers crossed).
No, that doesn't follow at all. Search engines rank sites... Best1, Best2, etc. The perfect search engine would rank things perfectly in order, not ignore everything but the best!
Its still a toss up, but Google definitely doesn't have to worry for awhile.
In fact, search.msn.co.uk has less market share now than it did this time last year.
As an average across all of our sites, MSN is referring between 6% and 16% the amount of traffic that Google does.
Our positions are almost identical on all phrases across all search engines.
However, credit where it's due - at the moment MSN definitely has the edge over Yahoo! in our industry.
For the past month or so, 90% of the top 100 for our main keyword are listings for the exact same page of google adwords. These pages are cloaked with content like:
Keyword elephant groans acceptingly keywords toward latice entrance entirley forest keywords in low of about it and secretly dismisses carpet grass keyword of initial keywords ponderance.....
what a joke...
I just noticed that if you use the MSN search glass on the top of your tool bar and not the one on MSN.co.uk home page you still get MSN results from Yahoo.
Untill these results are changed also i guess the trafic levels wont change?
We are fairly well indexed there, but so far only seeing a slight rise in percent vs Google etc.
One thing we have noticed though is that the percent of sales vs hits is higher for MSN.
Why should MSN show the same results as Google or Yahoo? Google's results should not be the yardstick for what constitutes a valid serp. I like the MSN results precisely because they are different.
I agree, I'm of the opinion that there is not only one possible set of serps, but many good possibilities. I'm happy not only to see significant difference between the big three, but I'm looking forward to see something approaching equal market share between them after longhorn comes onboard.
For users, they'll have three engines to search on, no one is forcing them to stay on one engine to find what they want. A completely different engine with a different algo is one click away.
Three different sets of serps, if taken as a whole, are far, far better for the user than three identicle sets of Google-inspired serps.
I hope I never see a single engine with such a large market share again.
BTW, is MSN going to thrive? Surely, after all this is Microsoft we're talking about, search is still in its infancy and life is long... Google, Yahoo, and MSN's results of today will look like dogs@#t in 10 years. I see Microsoft, as a business entity, in the best position going into the future (desite the fact that I would like to see an anti-trust law used to break it up).