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MSN Search - Approaching D-Day

Is Feb 1st the official date?

   
7:57 am on Jan 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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As we know, some sources say Feb 1st is the official date for MSN Search launch. If so, can we expect a complete index anytime soon?
12:50 am on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Never underestimate Microsoft. Remember IE 1.0? It was total trash. By version 3.0 they had knocked off Netscape. They have the resources and the right company culture to take on Google. It should be interesting to watch.
8:42 am on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Here's a letter from Bill Gates,

[specials.msn.com...]

[edited by: Imaster at 9:39 am (utc) on Feb. 1, 2005]

8:47 am on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Smiles all over the place today at the Googleplex. I wish my competitors would be as nice to me as Google's are.
9:01 am on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Something MSN does that Google doesn't:

type the following question into both Search Engines:

what is the population of Fredericton

MSN gives an answer.

Google gives links to irrelevant pages.

For the "Aunt Tilly-s" of the world, this is a BIG advantage for MSN.

Their SERPS are less than stellar, given, but natural language questioning is something AskJeeves tackled ages ago, maybe a bit ahead of the technology to do it properly, and it gave them a foothold in the Search Engine world they have yet to relinquish.

Things like natural language questions with actual responses.... That's the kind of thing MSN can do to set themselves apart... An potentially set themselves ahead.

Also, they're tying results from Encarta into the queries. Another thing that Google is missing out on.

Natural language queries with answers... Ability to query a well known Encyclopedia (and don't bother mentioning Wikipedia... The "Aunt Tilly-s" out there don't even know it exists.)

"Aunt Tilly" - That's MSN's target market. That's a market they know and have a proven ability to dominate.

Don't underestimate it.

*Exchange "Fredericton" with the city name of your choice.

9:47 am on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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[search.msn.com...]

MSN Encarta Free Pass
Open the door to a world of knowledge! MSN Search is now offering two hours of free access to the MSN Encarta encyclopedia whenever you click an Encarta link from MSN Search.

When your two-hour free pass expires, you can return to MSN Search, run another search or click an Encarta link. Your two-hour free pass is instantly renewable whenever you click an Encarta link from MSN Search.

10:01 am on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Smiles all over the place today at the Googleplex. I wish my competitors would be as nice to me as Google's are.

You say that but I had to resort to using MSN to find a very niche site (car club in the UK) that I knew existed.

I did struggle with Google for at least 5-10 mins but had to give up.

I went straight to MSN.co.uk and hey presto, they rank the site no1 where it deserves to be.

As much as I love Google if this becomes a more frequent event I can't see me returning there as often as I do currently.

10:33 am on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What were they showing us in the results from the beta version@ My results there were terrible but I figured that there would have been little point in trying to improve them until the launch. I check today after the launch and all of a sudden all of my sites are bang at the top of the rankings!

Thank you Bill Gates :)

If they do start to steal some of Google's traffic and the results are stable I'm booking two holidays this year!

11:01 am on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I see an increase in the referrals from MSN today and I believe its going to improve for me.
11:41 am on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Forgetting Webmastering for a moment who here has now switched to having MSN search as their homepage (where it was formally G. or another engine)?

TJ

12:19 pm on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Forgetting Webmastering for a moment who here has now switched to having MSN search as their homepage (where it was formally G. or another engine)?

I have just done that this morning!

I want to use the search engine as much as possible over the next few weeks and see how often I have to return to G.

12:36 pm on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I am more happy with the msn results...they are much much fresher than google's.

They seem to be able index & rank the sites more appropriately at this time.

I am in AU - and they are doing a good job on local.

12:43 pm on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Excell,
Where are you looking .au or .com?
12:47 pm on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have some sites sitting pretty and some not. Seems they have still not fixed the location problem as several of my UK .com's are lost in the void on UK only search.

another annoying thing is when i type "mysite" in. my website is position 8 (was 20 odd in full BETA) and sites which link to me are listed 1-7.

Surely this is a glitch or does it show less importance on the link content?

Hughie

12:51 pm on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'm interested in the "graphic equalisers" - they've got the possibility to throw a pretty big spanner into the SEOs job!

[search.msn.com...]

12:51 pm on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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cleanup - currently looking deeply on ninemsn.com.au for world & Au only...

I believe the results are slightly different from msn for world.

Strong results coming through stats across all sectors for sights on both msn & ninemsn

Monitoring around 40 sites and all seeing good benefits from both ninemsn & msn.

12:57 pm on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Sanenet - I don't know how you are seeing that, but it appears to be a pretty clunky tool to use at this stage.
1:39 pm on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Bracing myself for all the mainstream magazines to start doing search engine shoot-offs between MSN, Google & Yahoo (and various others).
3:31 pm on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Bracing myself for all the mainstream magazines to start doing search engine shoot-offs between MSN, Google & Yahoo (and various others).

That will indeed be interesting but in my area Google will walk it - and easily!

3:34 pm on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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slightly OT but have just gone to msn.com and IE blocked a pop up!
how ironic
4:09 pm on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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That's why we're proud of our new MSN Search service, a simple and powerful tool that helps you find the answers you want from sources as diverse as Web pages, images, news headlines, music downloads, and even files on your PC.

Bill drawed the big picture. But I am scared by his word "even files on your PC".

5:57 pm on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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[business.timesonline.co.uk...]

But listing a full page of Google links must count as a blunder in the software giant's campaign for web-domination.
9:10 pm on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The result begged the question: "Why bother with MSN in the first place?"

hmm.. nice one vitaplease.

9:38 pm on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My msn traffic is up today. My rankings are really good, slightly better that google.
However, I am thinking that the increase in traffic from msn today could be the result of all the press, and people checking it out.

So the big question for Mr. Gates, will people continue to use his service after they try it out this week.

10:34 pm on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'm in the UK.

When I search on MSN.com I get taken to [beta.search.msn.com...]

Is it being backed out due a problem or something. At least I'm not directed to msn.co.uk anymore.

11:06 pm on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I also keep this when I searh on msn.com

Object Moved
This document may be found here

The "here" is a link, except it isn't cos you don't go anywhere.

11:09 pm on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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" Have to feel sorry for the msn search guys. Worst search product launch probably ever. The bean counters must have won, figuring having their own product now will lead to greater revenue. If they don't dramatically improve it soon, I doubt anyone will even care about this forum by the end of the year since all it is now is the butt of water cooler jokes: "Look at this msn result!"."

My msn traffic has dropped to close to zero since beta went live, even with top rankings in what I thought would be total traffic generators, oh well.... some users seem to agree with steveb's assessment.

11:37 pm on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yes, I'm just not getting the visitors I would expect if msn had really gone live. Just not getting the visitors on some keywords that I would expect, by a long way.

Actually, I did start to get what I would expect early today, but they it just seems to have trailed off.

11:40 pm on Feb 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Is Midnight Feb 1, midnight as in when it ticks over from 31st January to Geb 1st, or midnight when it ticks from from 1st Feb to 2nd Feb.
Which day does midnight belong to.

technically it goes

23.59:59
00.00:00
00.00:01

so midnight is at the beginning of a day, not at the end.....hence my pet peeve also by those publications, info leaflets, etc that insist the time 24:00 exists when it quite clearly doesn't and can't.

12:00 am on Feb 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Forgetting Webmastering for a moment who here has now switched to having MSN search as their homepage (where it was formally G. or another engine)?

I have.

12:12 am on Feb 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I switched my homepage as well.

My site ranks well. I know my competitors and MSN ranks them pretty closely to the way I would have done it myself. Google seems to like the "auction", "shopping" and "comparison" sites. Their results in my niche are complete trash. It's refreshing to see something even close to reasonable results. I'm tired of the "Google Game".

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