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The new MSN is way better than we were seeing a year ago, and way fresher than Yahoo. In most cases, it is even fresher than Google. We just need to watch it. It will take time before we understand this great new addition to the web.
Now if only they'd stuck with the results from a few weeks ago, oh well... but have some nice high rankings on a few sites, lost others, but I've never really gotten much msn traffic anyway, a bit, but not a lot. We'll see.
It is important to keep in mind that these results are good enough for the current msn users, in other words, almost nobody who uses or reads this forum. Not good enough to get users to switch, but they don't need that yet I guess, work the bugs out, get it better, then later start really going for google, maybe even go for a big google client like AOL, after all, MS and Google made up, sort of anyway, maybe MS will decide to just undercut the aol contract, that would be a good place to start once the serps get better.
Now the only thing I'm looking forward to is Google and it's announcement that they have eliminated the sandbox and 301 highjacking or that they now have 16,000,000,000 websites in their index or some crap.
Bring the Heat MSN! Google deserves it!
There is a viscious press release war going on and neither search engine wants the other to steal the headlines.
Look at last year, everytime Yahoo released something, Google came in with a surprise announcement of their own. And Vice Versa.
ha, they'll never admit to eliminating something they never admitted to having!
msndude popped up in another thread [webmasterworld.com] to talk about something else (specifically, how MSN is treating META). Mainly noteworthy in that I haven't seen him around in a while.
Are we all that far away from an official announcement now?
joined:July 21, 2000
Minimum budget $75K - not seen this before
I'm pretty sure they've had this for a while now.
I'm a little disappointed so far in the volume new MSN is providing. I have a top rank in some highly competitive keywords and the results thus far are WEAK.
"Msn is finally on it's own ( dropping yahoo search)."
When they stop using Yahoo owned Overture, then they will be on their own. So June/July 2006 at the earliest.
But I like the new msn search because of the following from my referer logs:
Speckled through my results from the past 24 hours.
Call me easy to please ;)
Seems odd if they were going to be making this permenant that the beta link is still up on the msn.com homepage and that it still says beta in the search window. Also the graphical interface still looks...undone?
Any info out there?
There are still a lot of sites missing in my area, so presumably in other areas too, until they appear it is almost a waste of time theorising.
Selfishly speaking I think it is great because all my sites are #1 for their key searches, problem is they should not be!
Early days yet
Google and Yahoo are thanking MSN right now. Downgrading their search. Nothing like competition taking themselves out. No matter how your sites are doing in MSN, after awhile people will notice and move on over to Google or Yahoo. WebmasterWorld should chart the migration. What percentage are using MSN now and then look at it a year from now. Watch the downward spiral. Google, Yahoo, INK, even Teoma/Ask Jeeves still providing better results.
Are you joking? I assume so but I honestly can't tell. You must admit though G simply isn't usable for short keywords unless you like directory sites and spam. For longer phrases it is better though (for now).
Yahoo is (for now) the best of all three, but that's not saying a lot. It has major problems as well.
Anyway, unless Google and Yahoo are incredibly arrogant they wouldn't ignore the threat. Oh wait look who we are talking about -- you're probably right.
I mean the former is a company that has downgraded their own service dramatically to maximize their own profits while their opposition is weak. I mean how does an SE deny most new sites for a year AND still have craploads of spam? Really.
The later charges $300 for a CHANCE to enter their directory. Really.
I actually hope you're right TrustNo1. That will give MSN a chance to market unhindered for a month. Then Yahoo and Google will be forced to make themselves more consumer friendly to fight back. Consumers and webmasters can only win from that.
Quote 2: from Kangol (not webhound :-)
O still see lots of spamm on competitive kewords. Search engines will never be able to deal with spam.
You know Kangol, you're probably right, just a matter of which SE deals BEST with spam. (thanks for the catch webhound)
[edited by: Tigrou at 8:02 pm (utc) on Jan. 18, 2005]