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Ads on Home Page

Would it be a good idea to remove them?

         

BeeDeeDubbleU

8:19 pm on Oct 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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About six weeks ago I revamped and relaunched my well established consultancy website using CSS and ensuring that the coding was essentially validated, etc. It has retained its high position in the SERPs and, as I had hoped, I got an increase in traffic of about 20% and rising.

Disappointingly there has been no corresponding increase in either Adsense revenue or inquiries from the site. This particular site is recognised as an authority site in its field having been established for four years and holding the number one position for the main keyword.

What is also a concern is that inquiries for the service offered appear to have dropped. I am now wondering if the presence and position of the three ad units on the home page could be chasing my visitors away. As a result I was wondering if it would be better to remove some/all of the home page ad units to catch visitors attention first. It may be that the ads are chasing them away before I have captured their interest.

Thoughts?

Jean

8:31 pm on Oct 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Entirely personal opininon but if I am looking for a service and the page I found has a lot of advertising my thought (semi-conscious) is that this person is not clear about what business they are in and may not be trusted to do the job well. Otherwise, they'd be fully deriving their income from the one service.

I know that the argument gets pretty invalid if you analyze deeper but that's the way I tick. I must add that I myself have 3 different activities (so I am not judging you!) but I try to keep them separate in the way they are displayed. For example, no paid for services mixed with ads.

BeeDeeDubbleU

9:59 pm on Oct 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I appreciate what you are saying but I have been carrying ads on the site for more than a year and I have been happy with both the Adsense income and the level of inquiries. It's just that this level of inquiries seems to have dropped since I improved the site. I had a few people look at the new site and all of them agreed that it was an improvement. Perhaps it's just the new colour scheme :(

joeking

10:20 pm on Oct 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"inquiries seems to have dropped since I improved the site."

Were the improvements for your benefit or the visitors?

CSS, html, php, whatever, it means nothing to the vast majority of surfers.

Maybe what you (and others who are hardly going to say anything other than you want to hear) think is a better design isn't in the eyes of visitors.

As to ads on homepage, I have them on some, but not on others. For a consultancy website I would not.

robho

10:22 pm on Oct 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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three ad units on the home page

Way excessive. Makes it looked like a parked domain or scraper site. It'd be hard to find your offering in all that stuff.

roadhazard

11:40 pm on Oct 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'm in gifts. The visitors JUMP right onto the Adsense ads at the top of the homepage. Actually, I doubt they even glance at the other offerings either on homepage or any other page. What they like are the Google ads. Of course, the fact that the ads are in the heat position means that is where their eyes land first. Google Adsense has very attractive listings which mostly overshadow all the other items. But then Adsense pays part of my monthly bills now, so I am leaving the ads exactly where they are.

hunderdown

2:03 am on Oct 18, 2005 (gmt 0)



I strongly suggest an experiment. Remove at least two of the AdSense blocks for a week and see if your inquiries improve (I assume your consultancy business is more important to you than the AdSense income?).

I have one AdLinks block on my home page, which is all I would want to have. I recently redesigned my site, to make it more user-friendly, and CTR on that block is about half what it used to be. People seem to be more likely to travel on into the site, which is great, but not so great that income is down!

BeeDeeDubbleU

6:45 am on Oct 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Were the improvements for your benefit or the visitors?
Maybe what you (and others who are hardly going to say anything other than you want to hear) think is a better design isn't in the eyes of visitors.

The improvements were mainly for my visitors benefit. The site was rebuilt on CSS so that the pages would load more quickly and I standardised on text and links. The people I asked to critique the site were told to do just that and they had no reason to be sycophantic :)

I am in an engineering/technical discipline and I changed the colour scheme of the site from a cool blue shade to a dark red. It may be that this is putting engineers off?

I strongly suggest an experiment. Remove at least two of the AdSense blocks for a week and see if your inquiries improve (I assume your consultancy business is more important to you than the AdSense income?).

I think I will do this. I have been using 468x80 banners at the top and bottom of the content and 120x600 skyscraper in the side navigation panel. I will try removing the banners to leave the focus on the content of the home page.

I created a related site that offered a free service about 11 months ago. I was hoping I could move some of the ad focus to this from the main site but unfortunately it is still sandboxed.

BeeDeeDubbleU

6:08 am on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Ok. I tried the above and my earnings have almost halved last week over the previous seven days. I was willing to accept a hit but this has put me in a quandary.

Does anyone remember a thread where this has been discussed before? (I mean trying to find a balance between ads and retaining credibility.)

BeeDeeDubbleU

10:25 am on Oct 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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No takers?

Marcia

10:46 am on Oct 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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How about trying just a banner at the bottom? Then, if they're not interested enough to have clicked through into the site by the time they reach the bottom, then they can just click on the ads.

sailorjwd

11:45 am on Oct 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I've tried many combinations of ads (#, location & size).

For me the best has been to put a square of ads (blended) below the 1st paragraph. This happens to be in the visual hot spot too. Header and left and right border areas are very sparsely populated so the page looks clean upon first view.

BeeDeeDubbleU

11:53 am on Oct 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi Marcia,

This is what I am trying. I placed skyscraper in the navigation column, which is on the right hand side. I also put a banner at the bottom of the page. This leaves all the content of the home page uninterrup[ted by adverts. I am now beginning to think that I have too much content on the home page. This may be driving people away but the content is what gives me my G rank and traffic ... catch 22.

BeeDeeDubbleU

11:55 am on Oct 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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For me the best has been to put a square of ads (blended) below the 1st paragraph.

Do you mean below the fold?

Sweet Cognac

12:34 pm on Oct 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>>> I changed the colour scheme of the site from a cool blue shade to a dark red. It may be that this is putting engineers off? <<<<

Did you try changing the color back to blue? I think visitors are more likely to click on a cool blue than a dark red.

astro_miner

12:56 pm on Oct 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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In my experience the links in ads should never be red. Red is not a buying color... :)

How many of the large online stores do you see with red layouts? They all have blue/white, green/white or something similar. And since people expect that from professional sites now, give them what they're familiar with.

If your site is css-based it should be easy to change it to a blue color scheme and change the ads too, but keep the new layout. Do it for a week and compare... I think you'll be pleasantly surprised...

Good luck :)

BeeDeeDubbleU

9:52 pm on Oct 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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OK. I've gone back to blue. We'll see what happens from that. Thank you for the suggestions.

BeeDeeDubbleU

11:12 am on Nov 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Absolute disaster!

My site revamp is pulling in more traffic and my Adsense earnings have sunk to their lowest ever level They are currently only about 25% of what I was getting before I changed things.

Ankhenaton

11:22 am on Nov 4, 2005 (gmt 0)



my ecpm tanked too.. lets hope its only the jiggery jaggery that's going on..

I also removed last week all adsense code from 2 minisites as this was supposedly helpful. I am still waiting. 25% down.

astro_miner

1:40 pm on Nov 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Are you blocking spammy sites with the competitive filter?

An ad for abviously spammy stuff hurts your credibility, especially with people who tend to notice such things, and even more so on a business/consulting site. (Your audience is engineers, right? They're a pretty tech-savvy bunch and can recognize spam when they see it.)

I've had to block a lot of new spammers lately.

BeeDeeDubbleU

2:51 pm on Nov 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The ads on my site are valid and accurately targetted. I don't think this is the problem.