Forum Moderators: martinibuster
whats this? people earning 7 dollars per month arrogating the right to post in a forum and discuss things with the pros.
then, when someone tells you he's earning a living, everyone of this guys making a spring on him and wanting to squeeze his recipe of success out of him.
i tell you what: work as hard as you can for a few years and then maybe we can all talk again on the same level.
it's absolutely no use for anyone if people who have not proven their ability contribute to this forum.
ok, at least, you are honest. and i don't wanna know the number of people who are faking about their earnings and didn't arrive anything in their life.
and now you can cut me into pieces ;)
repeat traffic come for updated content
fresh traffic come from search engines
so, is all you are getting from other sites linking to you, using AdWords or offline sources?
None of the above, most of mine comes from forums etc and other sites linking to me because I have some very useful unique content on a bunch of sites / subjects. And I get 100 dollars a day average, over two years with only 1200 uniques, or 3.5k page views daily.
Good useful niche unique content pays.
1 Cup New Ideas
1/2 Cup Good Writing Skills
1/2 Cup Good Knowledge of the Internet and How it Works
A pinch of salt(thrown over the left shoulder for good luck)
Start by mixing the Good Writing Skills with Good Knowledge of the Internet and How it Works. Continue mixing until you get a consistency that you can work with. When the mixture looks just right, add the 1 c. New Ideas a little at a time.
So my advice (as someone who averages well over 25% CTR on 11 sites) is to post pages that are extremely focused on one product, idea, or service. Don't stray. If you're tempted to transition into a related topic, put up another page about it! I'll bet your CTR shoots way up if you're stuck in the 1%-3% range right now.
***Aug 2005***
Uniques: 4000-5000(Webserver logs)
Impressions: 14,000 (adsense "Page Impressions)
Clicks: 250
eCPM: 2$ ish
CTR: 1.7%
Earnings: $30
***Sept 2005***
Uniques: 4000-5500 (Webserver logs)
Impressions: 17,500 (adsense "Page Impressions)
Clicks: 275
eCPM: 2$ ish
CTR: 1.6%
Earnings: $40
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Can people give me their opinions of my eCPM it seems low compared to others.
adsense 25-27,000 impression
IP unqiue 7000
site pageview 40,000 pages
earn 14$
Page impr. - 4,498
Clicks - 305
Page CTR - 6.8%
Page eCPM - $14.80
Earnings - $66.56
About 200 uniques per day here...
I have noticed a lot of small things that can have a huge effect on the CTR. As someone mentioned earlier, niche pages work best - this means breaking down your hierarchy into more categories if needed (and possible)
I have found myself that ads that compliment the site colors, but also stand out more than (in my case) the white background prompted more clickthroughs. Also positioning is a obvious big one.
I thought that as I added more ads (Fastclick is CPM and I highly recommend them) my Adsense revenue would fall, but it hasn't. Now I'm making more with Adsense while actually limiting their space (took them off the home page today and replaced with YPN). Meanwhile Fastclick is increasing daily as is YPN.
My formula: diversify. Just like any good publisher, you have to play the advertisers off against each other. Make them fight over your space.
Case in point, a true story from the 80s when I was in the controlled circulation (free) newspaper business. Two advertisers wanted the back page all the time, every week. They started a bidding war until one finally said they'd pay double the going rate. I had to intervene with a compromise, that they would alternate weeks on the back page and inside back page, still at premium rates. They both felt like winners and I made a boatload of revenue for quite some time.
You have to believe that these different ad networks are going to take a look at your pages and see that you're running differnet ads in different combinations all over your site (without violating the TOS) and start serving you better ads in hopes that you'll give them better position and more pageviews. There are at least three major players now and more coming in soon.
My advice, for whatever it's worth: Don't commit to just one. Use them all. Make them take notice.
When I tried to create a new Google adsense account, it was denied as the address is already being used.
How do I create ads using my account on seperate domains (is this allowed - both sites are closely related - wedding planning and wedding shopping)
Thanks!
If they compared versions of this page spidered at different times of the day and put that together with the Adsense IP database, other statistical info they've got, last viewed pages, who went to webmasterworld.com/edpost.cgi?action=reply&forum=89&discussion=9808 (from the Google Toolbar),and the temperature in Sydney ... they probably already know who most of the posters here are.