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Complaining to google (if everybody did?)

Follow up to auto gen debate

         

KenS

2:38 pm on Sep 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Searching Google with a random, not prominent and probably unique text extract from my site i find sites that:

\ Copy the text exactly.

\ Hide the text so it cannot be viewed in the Browser (is this still a copyright breach I wonder?)

\ Contain AdWords at the top of the page

\ Format the rest of the page to look exactly like AdWords, cant distinguish other than the "ads by gooooogle" at the top. The rest of the page is just html page titles with invalid links.

I find this annoying. Not because it is using my text, nor because it is sucking out advertisers cash, but because it makes using the internet such a pain.

Is it worth sending the URL to AdSense and complaining - even if no TOS are being breached (which they are - made for adsense and copyright breaches). What if everybody complained to Google each time they came across such a site?

Eltiti

2:45 pm on Sep 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I feel your pain... :-(

A big problem, IMO, is that there are lots of sites that do as you describe; surely we can't spend all our time reporting these to G?! (I can think of more productive ways to spend my time...)

I assume G is already aware of the problem; I'd expect them to come up with some (algorithmic) solution "soon" --but maybe I'm just naive...

RonS

2:51 pm on Sep 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Did you notice if any of the links you found were marked "Supplemental Result?"

If so, they are already pushed to the end of any normal SERPs...

mafew

11:41 pm on Sep 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Has anyone noticed that ASA stayed clear of the "Interesting way to keep auto-generated sites online" thread? That makes me uncomfortable.

hyperkik

11:45 pm on Sep 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I think it suggests that (a) Google is aware of the "problem" of spam sites which display AdSense, (b) Google is either working on its own solution or is not presently choosing to enforce its "no sites made for AdSense" rule in relation to those sites, and (c) commenting on the controversy would be a needless headache for AdSenseAdvisor.

david_uk

6:08 am on Sep 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Has anyone noticed that ASA stayed clear of the "Interesting way to keep auto-generated sites online" thread? That makes me uncomfortable.

I noticed that too, but I can also imagine what would happen if he/she did enter the fray. An assurance that the thread is being read by people at Google capable of making decisions and kicking butt would help.

I think we all have concerns about what is an extremely serious issue, and it's not unreasonable to expect Google to offer some information. It would be handy to know:-

a) If Google are even aware there are problems. They might be sat up there in their ivory tower, blisfully unaware as far as we know!

b) Assuming they are aware of the problems, are they tackling them, and when will they have resolved the problems by?

I'd like assurances that instead of relying on algorythms that clearly don't work, they realise that algorythms have limitations and are making the necessary investment in people to police the content and advertiser networks. To an extent, remove the people that don't comply with the TOS from adsense and the serps will clean themselves up.

What really makes me mad is that if you do take the trouble to report TOS violations Adsense simply don't bother to a) reply to you, and b) to enforce the TOS.

So ASA, if a publisher has been reported for TOS violations, WHY do Google not enforce the TOS? WHY are they still allowed to scam advertisers with Google's full blessing?

Come on Google, by giving us some assurances that you are aware of problems and tackling them you wouldn't give too much away. Stop being so paranoid and start sharing.

send2paul

4:03 pm on Sep 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Ever since finding a nice website called Copyscape, where you can enter a url and it'll tell you the Top Ten websites which are using text/links which appear on your own, I have been quite happily sending, (faxing), DMCA, (Digital Millenium Copyright Act), notices to Google - with good success.

Blogger Support have been particularly helpful to me in dealing with, (removing from the net!), Blogspot websites that have "pirated" any of mine.

If you're concerned in that direction - try a few DMCA's :)