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2:47 pm on Aug 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Imagine having a leaderboard on the top of page:

o o o o

I made a simple trick: changed a style of second element (splitting this ad in 3 parts), in order it to be extraordinary significiant. Now scheme looks like

o O o o

This means "O" ad is red, and "o" ads are gray.
What are your opinions about this trick? :)

9:15 pm on Aug 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I already do the color rotation thing.

What i did with this is put a half banner followed by a 250x250 underneath. I used to have the 336 4-up ad on the page. The goal is to draw attention to the #1 ad spot. The half-banner has red link text which happens to match my 'current page' link text. The other ad block has normal blue link text.

I think it is cheating and should not be allowed but as EFV says some folks will milk adsense to the limits. Personally, I'll take advantage of every trick in the book as long as it is within TOS - its called 'gainsmanship'

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Yes, poor foobarquux. You guys jumped all over him because you have such closed minds. After a little reflection it now sounds like a profitable (and within ths TOS) tip, now, doesn't it! THINK before you speak, please.

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Wally World,

If you read his original thread you will see that he did indeed mess around with the code and that is the swift road to being banned.

The other 'tips' was a natural outgrowth of this thread as some were already doing something similar. All he or she needed to do was simply ask in here first to save a few headaches and not put his/her site in danger.

I was only "leaping" in order to awaken him/her to the fact of the immediate danger his income was in....in a situation like that every moment counts.

:-)

Hmmm, my earlier post seems to be gone---oh well-

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If you read his original thread you will see that he did indeed mess around with the code and that is the swift road to being banned.

I don't read it that way at all. I see no mention of changing the "code".

(splitting this ad in 3 parts)

The only logical way to do so is 3 ads. Many posters don't express themselves well in English and in this case one would (or at least should) logically consider allowed methods before jumping to not-allowed methods of accomplishing this and attacking the poster who is offering everyone a "tip".

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It just occurred to me that splitting a leaderboard position into 3 ads - 2 in one block and 1 each in the other 2 - will also have the effect of making it impossible for Google to deliver less than the minimum amount of ads you want up there... right?

I mean... the 768 has been showing 1, 2, 3 or 4 ads unpredictably for 2 weeks now since the new changes. This would keep 4 ads up there if that is what you want... or a minimum of 3 at least.

I might try this out with the varying colors just to see the effect!

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Ah well,

Everyones perceptions are different I suppose but using css to split the block apart and draw attention to one of the ads is against the T&C.

If you read msg #12 it eplains it clearly as does the original post.

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Yes, poor foobarquux. You guys jumped all over him because you have such closed minds.

ummm... HELLO!?

Did you read the original post? Maybe you should go back and do that again....

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I don't read it that way at all. I see no mention of changing the "code".

jesus... you people are incredible...

You're not interested in any beachfront property in Dallas are you? I got some stuff I'd sure love to sell you...

sheeesh...

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If this technique involves splitting a leaderboard into three parts, there are two drawbacks:

a) That uses up your limit of 3 ad blocks in one page, instead of one leaderboard and two other blocks;

b) You pass up the opportunity to benefit from CPM ads.

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OK...

Time to explain all mess for thread starter:
My question was: "What are your opinions about this trick?"
I am statisfied that somebody tried explain what is wrong.

But what i really feel dissapointed, because of people started blaming me instead of the trick, what was the original question. What's more, my description of implementation was not clear enough, i did everything actually without modifying code.

If you still blame me, that's ok :) But, if I thought it was an excellent idea, i didn't ask your opinions about it here.

And finally, blaming me even clicking on my own ads really exhausted my patience. Why should i have spend so much time in reading this forum threads? I read this forum daily, so i expected instead of hearing "these are the guys that later come crying saying that they got banned for 'no reason at all"', to hear "This is bad trick, which might be violating TOS, be careful!". And finally, what i suspect, but i would'nt like to hear, the guys who were blaming me, might also have started using this trick, because it obviously increases CTR.

Thats my opinion. Writing this, i imagine another 20 posts, claiming that I should be disconnect from internet for a whole life, but that's ok, i feel free to say what i think, what's is a purpose of such forums.

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foobarquux, some missunderstandig was in the place. But the discussion cleared it up.

Anyway - thanks for the idea, I just go to try it :-)

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foobarquux,

Thanks for the tip. I'm going to stick with it and monitor for a while. So far it appears a slightly increased probability of user clicking the #1 ad. In my case this means a mult-buck click which is nice!

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foobarquux, no, I won't pounce on you like some of us here just did. Thanks for the tip! I will try it next month and see if it will increase my earnings.
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It was a good tip foobarquux and thanks for taking the time to share it.

TJ

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This is an interesting trick. Besides the chance to change color (I'm currently trying grading the backgrounds across a three ad-unit 'banner') You also get the effect that the ads load seperately, usually within a second or two of each other - there's a kind of 'popping-in' effect, usually from left to right.

Roddy

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sorry Foo,

But your post did indeed say you were splitting the leaderboard into 3 parts.

There was no misunderstanding on anyones part who actually took the time to read it and respond.

I don't feel anyone was "jumping" on you, they were worried that you may get into trouble and thus the discussion took the turn it did.

Delibert or not misleading posts only fan the flames.

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I've also gone for the half-banner above the 250x250.

All on a white background:

half-banner: white bg, red text, red border
250x250: black text, no border, white bg.

will give it a few days. Make sure you put half-banner and the 250x250 in separate NEW channels for ease of tracking. I'm gonna watch the eCpm on the half-banner closely too - are more expensive ads really going to get put in there?

any other variations you want to share?

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Hi all,
Hi,I'm a newbie here..
Just wanna ask what's eCPM?I was known that CPM is "cost per million".What about eCPM?What info actually can we get from that?
By the way,about the tips you guys discussing here.Is that against the term&condition of G adsense?Cz it somehow draw attetion to the ads which I heard is forbidden..Does it considered as a kind?Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Thanks in advance :)

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>>I don't feel anyone was "jumping" on you, they were
>>worried that you may get into trouble and thus the
>>discussion took the turn it did.

What a load of bull. This forum is full of witch hunters and would be "do gooders"

Had any of the flamers had enough imagination to figure out what he was saying, or courtesy enough to say "i don't understand, are you manipulating the iframe? because that would be against the TOS"

It wouldn't have happened.

I love the site I have learned a lot here, but you can't talk about anything in the adsense forum without people accusing you of theft or fraud.

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Perhaps someone could post how you might split up a leader board to do this. Looking at the javascript I don't think its possible. Before I get flamed let me state that I have no plans now or in the future to do this and I am not now nor ever have been a member of the communist party (that last bit was just for Sen. McCarthy :) ).
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Before you jump to any conclusions, please take into consideration, too, that English is not the native language of many WW posters. Some posts here are cryptic or ambiguous, because the posters are unable to express themselves quite clearly.
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hi Charlier,
I think what the OP actually did was use multiple ads in the style of a leaderboard
i.e. one ad followed by another one ad block and then completing the pseudo leaderboard with a two ad block.

And then you make the second single ad stand out by making it a different colour from the others.

That way the code isn't changed at all but you make the second ad in the 'leaderboard' draw attention.

And if that isn't what all the subsequent hoohah has been about then I've completely lost the plot...

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if you wanted to though you would get a reference to the iframe window

haven't tested it but this should work

var adsenseBlock = document.getElementsByTagName("iframe")[0].contentWindow;

// the adsense I looked at id'ed the tables by the name "taw" plus a number

adsenseBlock.document.getElementById("taw2").style.backgroundColor = "red";

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8:49 pm on Aug 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Gee, it must be great to be perfect and read other peoples minds...Vabtz you would be great working for the UN as a translator
:-)

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It is great.

But I don't work at the UN anymore. I was let go after Bush got in office do to lack of use.

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But, doesn't this make the whole page look cheesy, when you use three loud contrasting colors?

I see the mention of yellow. No offense, I love daisies. But, when I see yellow on a webpage I think of Check Cashing places. I have a personal rules that says no more than 25 square pixels of yellow.

But, not to focus on the yellow issue, specifically, I would like to see somebody's page who tried this and made a nice page of it. I'm not picturing it. Think I misplaced my 'vision', as in eye for the future.

P.S.
We added a new site to Adsense mid day yesterday. It earned $53 yesterday for a partial day, and has already earned $48 today with 10 hours to go, all on 100% organic search engine traffic. We are expecting that site to close at $90 for the day. We are stunned.

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janethuggard I am jealous.

Congrats!

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Ok, we are trying this. Three ads, three complementary colors. Let's see.

<sidebar>

Funny... as I was putting on the test ads on a page, just now, I noticed an ad for Yahoo, in my Adsense block. Hover on title and url confirm it.

Serg? What are you thinking? lol I would have thought that url would have been blocked.

</sidebar>

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