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recommend your friend to email google telling them it it his site, the reason the ads were placed there and ask them to credit all clicks from that URL back from a specific date to the advertisers
Risky operation. If Google interprets the email in a slightly wrong way, they might interpret it as the site needing to be penalized instead of the webmaster, or both. This might have the consequence that the site is added to the Google AdSense blacklist and that--if your friend ever wants to display AdSense on this site for his own purpose--causes Google ads to be blocked.
There have recently been some posts about closed AdSense accounts because of "association" with other banned accounts. How far does this association go? If Google flags the webmasters' account and website to be associated with refunded clicks to advertisers, I don't know what happens if on a later date a new publisher (the real owner) signes up for AdSense on that specific website. Google might look in their history, see the refunded clicks and respond with "Sorry, your website doesn't meet our criteria".
Try to convince the webmaster that something is wrong, not Google. The latter is way too risky.
Cheating is no good.
Reporting the webmaster / hosting company does not help.
I am a webmaster myself and have reported my hosting company a few times, for adsense related cheating, but with no effect.
Best is to play safe.
If the webmaster inserted the ads with his own account - then you should do something. If he used the account of your friend then you should say thanks for the good work. Why so?
1. Ads from competitors may be blocked if your friend doesn't wants them on his page.
2. The concept of the webmaster is correct. It is possible that Google will send more visitors.
Google will not earn a lot from company websites that show adsense ads. Normally not. But something is remarkable - Google gets feedback of how targeted a websites content is. In fact, Google needs to separate scrapers and other unrelevant content from good content. Because users want content - not scraped stuff.
Google is able to realize deep tracking with adsense - that delivers them valuable information about the content and user reactions on the page. Furthermore, the webmaster of a website has to register for adsense - incorporating himself as a real person.
I believe this webmaster has done a good job.
Regards
itloc
I am thinking of using the Report a voilation in the feedback menu and report it all to adsense.
I am thinking, and it is just my opinion, that you should step back from this.
You have given someone who runs a multi-million pound business the benefit of your opinion. Surely he if he is competent to run such a business he is capable of weighing up your opinion against someone else's opinion and making his own decisions.
Remember you are not in possession of all the facts here, just what your friend told you and what you surmise. Parts of the story, not all of it.
As to whether he needs adsense or not, that is his decision, but I have never met a wealthy man, no matter how wealthy, who was not interested in earning more money, no matter how little.
The webmaster may be ignorant, or incompetent, or intentionally tricky, but the site OWNER is responsible here, and who is also possibly ignorant, or hasn't done due diligence.
You can't punish someone for giving bad advice, in this situation. Caveat Emptor.
If it's not the owner then surely this is theft by the webmaster?
I am thinking of using the Report a voilation in the feedback menu and report it all to adsense.
I am thinking, and it is just my opinion, that you should step back from this.
Maybe it's only part of the SEO contract.
The steel company gives a list of competitors for the ad filter.
The webmaster does his best for site optimization, because his income is determined by the AdSense performance of the site.
You've told your friend about it and gave your professional opinion.
Anything else you do to "get back" at this other webmaster may end up just dropping you down to his level.
If your friend is making millions, I'm sure he'll be smart enough to make his own decision on this.
secondly if your friend feels that its gud to show google ads, tell your friend to open an account on his own name and then put the ads.
You will soon see the webmaster saying "I think its okay without ads too"
lol
Best you can do is to stop the webmaster getting the money.
What do you say?
bye
is his web developer had misguided him telling that ads by google is an indication that your site is regularly watched by google and the serps will get better by the day.
Google says very clearly (somewhere) that participation in AdSense will not help or hurt your rankings. However, IMO there are possible indexing benefits. Your site could get crawled faster and deeper because of the Mediabot finding new URLs to index. If you have a dynamic site (e.g. a forum), Google will find out about every new URLs within minutes. That could be a not insignificant benefit.
That doesn't excuse what the webmaster did, which sounds very sleazy, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
From the perspective of AdSense ToS, as long as your friend's site is compliant with AdSense program policies, the webmaster is welcome to place his AdSense code on the site. Once the AdSense ad code is pasted into a site, our technology automatically detects the new site and begins serving relevant ads.
Secondly, as other publishers have mentioned, it's true that filters can be used to block competitor ads from appearing on your friend's site. Many e-commerce publishers are able to use competitive ad filters to benefit from the AdSense program (see
[webmasterworld.com ] for a recent thread on this topic).
You may, however, wish to direct your friend's attention to the following page on the AdSense support site:
[google.com ]
While we'd obviously love him to participate, he should probably know that AdSense will not impact his site's ranking in the Google search results. It sounds like his webmaster may have provided him with inaccurate information in this regard.
-ASA
As i just wuoted in another thread:
5 Prohibited Uses. You shall not ... vi) ... incorporate the Ads ... in any ... Web site ... other than Your Site(s)
So the webmaster was breaking the TOS
You represent and warrant that... You are the owner of each Site or that You are legally authorized to act on behalf of the owner of such Site(s) for the purposes of this Agreement and the Program
The "for the purposes of this Agreement and the Program" makes the whole thing clear as mud, but I don't think there's any question that putting your AdSense code on someone else's site without their knowledge or consent could get you in trouble in a lot of ways.
From the perspective of AdSense ToS, as long as your friend's site is compliant with AdSense program policies, the webmaster is welcome to place his AdSense code on the site.
So that Google isn't the authority to punish the webmaster tricking the site owner and they will allow the ads as long as the site is compliant. Although this doesn't sound like what the official TOS say, that actually makes sense because you can not blame your webmaster for what he has done in this situation.
The information is there on the web. Google guys are there just an email ahead. The site owner should have asked whether the info is true or not before jumping on the idea of getting his site ranked high easily. I think both parties deserve some lesson here.
