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i am very disappointed. i mean i know google takes a cut of it, but seriously, 99.9%? That's not nice...
joined:May 6, 2005
Probably because the advertizers paying high CPC limit their exposure to the serps by opting out of the content network.
They may run a second campaign aimed at the content network, but with the kind of CPC you are seeing instead of the big bucks. That's why you sometimes see the same advertizers in both search and content, but with huge differences in CPC.
Do you think i would have better luck if i made a search box on that page and searched for the specific keyword?
This keyword that i used is an $82.00 keyword... and there are 45 advertisers that have it
I would also appreciate it if you actually helped to answer my question. Instead of telling me that my page is not going to pull high-paying ads why don't you tell me HOW to pull them?
Are you saying that 40 or so of them opted out of content?
edit: didn't see you weren't using Overture numbers. However, the same principle still applies. Content network clicks for the obvious victim keywors are not as valuable and therefore don't get the same kind of bids.
[edited by: woop01 at 4:38 am (utc) on July 30, 2005]
This is what i am doing now.
then i prefered to stick to my niche with click valie of 10 to 15 cents ,writing one article a day.
running after high paying keywords doesnt make long term sense.
only if you are highly knowledgable about the 'high value word' feild, make a site focused on that.. write hundreds of articles on that.. you shall see very high value epc. and u may get ur 82 dollars also.
No shortcuts apply here in long run.
BUT , if you are actually VERY knowledgable in those High Value Keywords feild, you would be earning millions in WORKING in those feilds and not looking as AdSense for revenue.
Sometimes I get high earnings, other times low even though the ads that appear on my page contain keywords are highly bidded.
I think one reason is that advertisers bid lower for content networks but this can't be the only reason.
If it were, then how do some sites earn so much Adsense income? At least that's what they claim.
Adsense is not a get rich quick scheme. If you could just setup a page about “VERY HIGH-PAYING KEYWORD”s and watch the money roll in, the people you want advice from wouldn’t be on this forum. They would have earned their millions about a year ago and have $100k/year assistants taking care of creating a new page to target $82/click keywords each day.
I made 2002..2003 a software for realtors.
I created one own website to list all the offers of all my realtors.
I resarched "codemonium" (in German) with
German city name
and found this are extrem high paying ads.
But my real estate site made far below my average EPC.
This site was never good runing compared to my other sites, but an algorithm change in February reduced this site so much, that I have given up this site.
i think eyeinthesky is right, theres got to be more to it than that... how else would these high-paying-keyword sites be making so much money?
There are ways to optimize your site for maximum revenue. There are also things that people can do to greatly and easily improve google's image of their site's relevance when faced with these keywords. For example, i told you guys earlier, i just made one little page completely unrelated to the topic of my entire site and then linked it to a random page... would google know this? would something like this alone bring my profit from that click from 50% down to 1%?
There is also one other thing i noticed. On a certain high-paying keyword site (that i know does very well considering it's normal google search results), the pages are filled with menus and ads and tables and pictures, and only a paragraph or so of text. and what surprised me is that this paragraph didn't even contain a single mention of the high-paying-keyword! Not even in the page title! The only place it was mentioned was in a little bold headline about the same font size as the paragraph text.
...this is soemthing that in order to explain i imagine one would have to know of the way in which the adsense algorith picked out the keyword he wanted so well. I personally think it had something to do with the way that headline was tagged HTML-wise:
< h1 class="links" >Credit Counseling: < /h1 >
Theres a lot of text on that site, the menu on the top of the page, another menu on the right, a headline near the top that says "More Financial Information"... I wish i knew how this guy set it up so google picked the exact keyword he wanted.
So if you website is NOT related to the keyword in anyway they will discount the advertiser. The more it's unrelated - the more heavy the discount.
joined:May 25, 2005
i have a website that i started about a week ago. i also started using adsense and adwords about a week ago. things have been going great in adwords and crappy in adsense, but i don't mind too much because my website's topic is pretty lame.
on the other hand, my father it going to ask me to do his lawfirm's website. This led me to think hmm, i bet i could make a lot of money on advertisements if i wrote a lot of good articles and put a lot of content on his sites. so i started experimenting with adsense, trying to figure out the best way to use it, using my current site as a guinea pig.
that's why i'm asking all these questions, not beacause i wanna make a get-rich-quick site about mesothelioma.
joined:May 25, 2005
You only get high payments on keywords if they convert for the advertisers. Put yourself in their position. Would you be prepared to pay $10 per click on scraper joe's blogspot knowing full well that you would not get a customer out of it? Advertisers will pay good money for leads, but you have to give them paying customers.
Making a made for adsense site, and paying for traffic is a high risk strategy. Especially as adsense will eventually kick you out.
Do as the others say. Find a topic you can write a decent, informative website on. Promote it, and send some quality traffic to the advertisers. That way you will make money from adsense. It's a long term strategy, but it works.
One word about smart pricing. I'm not sure if this is factual, but it is my gut feeling. The last few weeks I have been watching what advertisers are on my site, and blocking scrapers, made for adsense sites and webmasters buying traffic. The result has been a 20% increase in bottom line $$. The clicks/ctr has dropped by half, but the epc has increased by well over twice. The quality of adverts has increased quite dramatically by blocking less than 50 sites.
What I've been seeing the last few days is a further increase in cpc. I have a theory that smartpricing has decided that as a result of better advertisers paying more for clicks, that the value of my piece of internet real estate has improved, thus put up the price to advertisers.
No fool will pay $82 per single click.
There are areas where some advertisers think that such a bid is a good investment (for example the famous 'M' word mentioned in this thread.) But those that are bidding that high will keep a very close watch on their campaign and:
For other languages/regions those advertisers start separate campaigns with much lower paying keywords.
FYI, I just added the famous word in the AdWords keyword analyzer and it predicts a reasonable place in the SERPs, even with the lowest bid of 0.05. This means IMHO that most advertisers do not bid very high on this keyword.
Maybe there are just a few high bidders and all the other bidders are AdSense publishers hoping to buy cheap traffic for the high paying keyword and that the visitor will then click through to one of the very few high paying ads about the same keyword on their own site.
joined:June 15, 2001
There is also the possability that the ad that was clicked was not on target.
First off you'll never get an EPC above thirty something.
You mentioned you've only been doing it a week - takes some time for adsense to get a history for your site/page.
Maybe adsense restricts the value of ads for a while until they have some history.
I've never written a page for specific high paying words but when I do decide to write a page I will investigate the keywords and phrases that show the most ads in search and tailor the keyword density and seo to those words/phrases.
You may have a stop word or two that cause some ads to drop out.
I have pages that one day get pennies per click and the next will get 200 to 300 times that value.
Give it a month before you jump to conclusions.
However, if you do get a bunch of clicks and adwords folks peak at your site they may add you to the negative site list which can hurt epc too.
ps. I don't buy the thought that the overall theme of your site affects EPC.