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justadsin

12:24 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hello. This is my first post in this forum, though i've been viewing for a few weeks.

Just today, my google account was disabled. They didn't give me a reason, other than that i've violated something in their TOS. I've read over the TOS very carefully, and the only thing i can see that might make sense, is that 3 days ago, i pulled down an article (from my site, written by someone else) that has curse words in it. I don't promote this type of language on any of my websites, so i took it down, but left the adsense intact for that page. Over the last few days, i've still been generating traffic to the page ($100+ per day in adsense revenue). I had intentions of putting up a new article with similar content (minus the curses), but didn't have an opportunity to until today. I was actually in the process of typing the updated article when i got the email from google. I've explained this to them, but i haven't gotten an email back yet. The reason i'm worried is because my website is my main source of income, and i'm currently expecting a $2400 check from google, which i now fear they won't send me.
Does anyone know what i can do? any help would be greatly appreciated.

justadsin

2:07 pm on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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not only is it NOT from a "shady source," but i retain about 1/20th of the traffic i purchase.

uk_webber

2:23 pm on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)



It would be better to focus on what this guy can do moving forward and away from adsense.

What are other options?

frox

2:23 pm on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I think the problem might be with the purchased traffic...

I think that the clicks generated by purchased traffic are statistically VERY similar to the click generated by fraudulent activity.

And that's even more tue if you think of the already anomalous traffic going to an Adsense-only page, thus generating even stronger anomalies in the clicking patterns.

moneyraker

2:25 pm on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I didn't mean to say that you bought traffic from 'shady' people, Justadsin, since you made that known to us clearly at the start. I'm just trying to explain that 'concentrated' traffic (such as a large volume of traffic landing on the same pages, which is not bad per se and which is how some traffic sellers do it) can skew Adsense stats that can arouse suspicion on the part of G.

I believe that the safest people on earth from numerical analysis by G's fraud analysis algorithms are those whose stats are as boring as can be, i.e., those with no discernible patterns whatsoever.

sailorjwd

2:45 pm on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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just..

If it truely was a mistake then tell G exactly what happened and why. Do it in a concise manner, be polite, and promise that you won't make that mistake again. And tell them about the link that caused a magnification of the problem - you don't have to tell them you purchased any links - none of their business.

cross fingers and toes.

hunderdown

2:50 pm on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)



Well, after reading through this thread I don't think it's the purchased traffic.

He had a page with curse words. Strike one. When he took the content off, he didn't take the AdSense code off too (or remove the page altogether), so he was left with AdSense on a page with no content. Strike two.

Two strikes with AdSense = you're out. I am guessing that AdSense sees a "pattern" of violations.

petra

3:00 pm on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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yup, I agree. I'm curious, why didn't you take down the ads again?

asianguy

3:04 pm on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)



frox >>I think the problem might be with the purchased traffic...

You got to be kidding me...if this is true,
All the Pay Per Click companies including Google provides bad traffic.

You have to tell Google, Yahoo and MSN on this because they sell traffic to advertisers.

What a lame analogy!

mwpclark

3:52 pm on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Did you ask AdSense support what the exact problem was? I have found them to be extremely courteous, intelligent and specific.

justadsin

3:36 am on Jun 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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After a couple of exchanges with google, the final determination as that they will pay me all earnings to date, but will not reinstate my account. the reason given, although not clearly stated, was "sneaky redirects", which i don't even understand. I asked them once more for a second chance and promised i would be more careful in the future, but they still turned me down. Can someone please tell me what "sneaky redirects" are?

spaceylacie

3:47 am on Jun 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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sneaky redirects

It's sneaky redirects to your pages. I'm beginning to think people here are correct.

fischermx

4:20 am on Jun 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I also don't know the exact definition of "sneaky redirects" either.

kiladen

4:25 am on Jun 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Sneaky redirects would be, lets say, getting lots of search engine traffic about "free stuff", and instead redirecting a page optimized purely about mesothelioma. The ads would still be about mesothelioma, but the traffic is completely useless and sneaky.

justadsin

9:56 pm on Jun 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Well, that definitely doesn't describe my site at all. But even so, how would that hurt Google? It's not like you can force anyone to a link about cancer, if they're not already interested. And if that's the case, then google has accomplished exactly what they set out to do, bring interested parties to webpages that pertain to the info they're interested in. Still not me, though, so maybe someone else can help me figure out what they might mean by "sneaky redirects"?

nutsandbolts

10:25 pm on Jun 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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justadsin, let's be honest here.. it's not hard to find your site/s and see what you have done.

Hundreds of subdomain javascript re-directs is very sneaky ;)

fischermx

10:31 pm on Jun 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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How did you find it?

justadsin

10:36 pm on Jun 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"justadsin, let's be honest here.. it's not hard to find your site/s and see what you have done.
Hundreds of subdomain javascript re-directs is very sneaky ;) "

i don't even know what a subdomain javascript re-direct is. and i really am being honest. i think you may be looking at the wrong site

justadsin

10:38 pm on Jun 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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btw..i don't even know how you would be able to find my site

spaceylacie

10:41 pm on Jun 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Oh, these folks can find you. I've gotten stickys... so who is ___________. That's me! I say.

jomaxx

10:45 pm on Jun 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It sounds like either you, or this company you were buying traffic from, were funneling untargeted traffic to AdSense pages, probably optimized for high-value ads.

I don't expect you to admit it at this point if you were doing something along these lines, but if you're sure you weren't then you should take a hard look at where your traffic was coming from.

jomaxx

10:56 pm on Jun 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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P.S. Since your email address is @ a company that's actually in the business of selling cheap bulk traffic, that is my current leading theory of why you were booted.

justadsin

11:21 pm on Jun 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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no.. that site is not mine. that's just a company that i sell IR packages for and use as one of my email accounts. That's not really here nor there. Though I appreciate the helpful ones' help, the rest of you need not infer about why my adsense account was disabled. i already gave the reason; "sneaky redirects". Now, what i'm trying to get to the bottom up, is what exactly that means :)

wyweb

11:29 pm on Jun 16, 2005 (gmt 0)



sneaky redirects = sneaky redirects.

That's what it means to me...

spaceylacie

11:39 pm on Jun 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Okay, do you need us to hold your hand and explain further?

jomaxx

11:43 pm on Jun 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I thought I was being clear, but what I'm saying is that buying bulk traffic = "sneaky redirects", whether it comes from blind links, popunders, spyware, 404 traffic, whatever.

justadsin

12:46 am on Jun 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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thank you. i guess that IS was caused it then, although not intended by me. i guess i should be more careful about where my traffic comes from in the future.

hfwd

1:38 am on Jun 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Huh? That's it? Sneaky redirects can get you booted off? So, what's the defense against a competitor "buying" your website a whole lot of sneaky redirects?

justadsin

1:53 am on Jun 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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true, and i STILL don't see why that's bad for google. no one's holding a gun to anyone's head, forcing them to click.

spaceylacie

2:51 am on Jun 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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No comment.

incrediBILL

3:59 am on Jun 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Are the villagers here done brandishing sharp pointy farm tools and carrying torches or does this incarnation of the AdSense soap opera "The Young and the Accountless" still have legs?
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