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People who have premium accounts surely feel much more comfortable about their online business. I guess it takes a bit of money to have a account manager who would work with you to make sure you are not violating any TOS and also help you with the flexible ad formats etc. I was just wondering if Google can consider offering a premium account for a monthly subscription - say $100 - one account manager can handle 20 - 30 accounts at least. Would you be willing to pay for such a point of contact and flexible ad formats? I guess the flexibility in ad formats may also help us gain more revenue and pay for the service itself. Can Google offer such accounts? Perhaps to old pulishers.
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People who have premium accounts surely feel much more comfortable about their online business.
If you mean by more comfortable not staying up nights worrying about getting kicked out of AdSense. I don't worry about that, because the best way to not get kicked out of AdSense is to follow the TOS. It's that simple.
Would you be willing to pay for such a point of contact and flexible ad formats?
No.
I don't need a TOS coach, I have WW forum and Google support if I am in doubt.
I would pay that much to remove the "ads by gooooogle"
I would pay that much to someone who has access to internal Google numbers and variables hidden from me but affect my earnings, and can advise me on how to improve my earnings, also give me real time feedback on tests and changes and reduce the cycle.
Yes I would pay $100 to make $1000 more month.
I think the positive with this is that if advertisers can select the premium content network over the content network, then they can be assured of non-MFA contexts, with good content.
On the flip side, premium sites could have, let's say, more filter slots, or other features that wouldn't cost google money.
Would I pay a small nominal fee for this? Sure. How much would depend how good it was.
In theory, ALL adense sites should be high quality, to my way of thinking, but, well, since they aren't, let's distinguish between junk and non-junk for advertisers.
I also am not worried about violating TOS myself but one does worry a little about click attacks, etc. as this is something beyond our control. I do hope G would figure out a way to discount the excess clicks from an ip, etc and simply not pay it, rather than ban someone.
Just my 2 cents.
advertisers can select the premium content network over the content network, then they can be assured of non-MFA
Now that's another good idea, but not as monthly fee, but a one time non refundable $100 manual review cost to put you in the clean and safe for advertisers category.
I also agree with you that it's Google's job to keep its publishers list clean in the first place but with hundreds of thousands of publishers, and how we see things running over time, it's becoming silly.
Yet another reason to pay, and hey they can deduct that money from my earnings too.
Yon want to know something else I would pay for? An SMS hourly clicks and earnings report when I am away from my computer or on vacation.
Google, $revenue$ $streams$ to keep investors happy here, I hope you are listening.
as Hobbs said:
Yes I would pay $100 to make $1000 more month.
On second thoughts, if Google adopts a "clean and safe for advertisers category" they would be admitting to the problem in the first place, so I wouldn't hold my breath for that one, although I like it very much.
I think it's "spinable". They could introduce it as a classification system by topic -- something like that. Or simply focus not on quality per se, but on the idea that each premium accepted site has been manually reviewed and compared to the set of standards used.
For example, if one of the standards was no more than 3 ads of ANY type, that would work.
The real problem would be around enforcement, I'm afraid. And promising things that would be hard to maintain. I'd probably have such premium sites be able to display a special logo, and have clicking on the logo end up at a page that would specify the standards, how to advertise on the premier network, AND a link to report violations.
And, I'd manually follow up on violation reports.
It's all in the words, really. Definitely doable without having to "admit" anything.
The idea is that if you have an account manager we get all the features a premium account gets because they review the implementation.
I am not a premium publisher and don't have a personal account manager. AdSense support however always answers my questions and when implementation problems arise on my site they review it for free and suggest what to change or to improve. The only difference is that now everytime the AdSense response is signed with a different name, while with a personal account manager the name would always be the same. Therefore, why would I pay for a service which I get now already for free?
Enforcement can only be an issue with a large number of publishers per agent, I am guessing one can take care of up to 500 sites, outsource it to India, pay $2,000 per month per agent including training and setup, and Google nets $48k per agent per month.
Now have a hundred agents serving 50,000 sites, we are talking $57.6 Million annual net profit, not counting the other increase in earnings from those publishers optimizing better, also advertisers spending more and new advertisers joining or coming back ..
Even if you half it, 250 sites per agent, or 25,000 sites you still end up with a handsome net profit for Google, a stock boost and everyone goes home happy.
the best way to not get kicked out of AdSense is to follow the TOS.
Agree.
It's that simple.
Ooops, I don't think you've read the fine print. It's not that simple because the Terms and Conditions clearly says that you can be booted whether or not you personally had anything to do with the arrival of what Google (at their sole discretion) judges to be "invalid clicks".
So, while surely most people will not get booted out of AdSense, and surely most people who do get booted violated the Terms and Conditions, it is not "that simple". Absolutely obeying every aspect of the Terms and Conditions cannot guarantee that you will not get booted from AdSense. They cannot afford to be in the position of having to prove who caused invalid clicks to arrive in every single case, so this lack of guarantee is highly likely to persist into the future.
Clearly, most AdSensers don't grasp that point, since the first thing out of the mouths of folks who get banned is invariably "I didn't do anything wrong" -- as though Google has not clearly reserved the right to boot you whether you personally did anything wrong or not.
Seems rather odd that Premium Publishers are the ones who get account managers when they already have the pageviews/revenues many of us seek. It would seem that if they already have those numbers, they must be doing something right.
It's the $1 - $50/day folks who need the guidance.
Seems rather odd that Premium Publishers are the ones who get account managers when they already have the pageviews/revenues many of us seek. It would seem that if they already have those numbers, they must be doing something right.It's the $1 - $50/day folks who need the guidance.
Celgins, you are exactly right, however most of life is unfair that way. For instance, have you noticed that the person who has bad credit even though due to some tragic circumstances, he has to pay a high interest rate that he really cannot afford and the person who has a lot of money, never had a financial tragedy, has great credit, therefore gets a very low interest rate even though he can afford the higher interest rate.
There are many other things like this, but it seems to be "the rich get richer and the poor get poorer".
[edited by: WolfLover at 7:16 pm (utc) on June 13, 2006]
the rich get richer and the poor get poorer
Nah...
With Adsense, the rich get richer, and the poor also get richer!
Nah...With Adsense, the rich get richer, and the poor also get richer!
LOL Humblebeginnings! Don't get me wrong, I love the AdSense program, it has been great for me, I was just saying that Celgins was right about the Premium publishers who already make a ton of money and who obviously are doing things right already get to have an account manager to help them even further when it's the little guy who really needs the help more.
Like health, it's wasted on the young..
who said that?
You become premium when your account has the potential to bring Google tens of thousands per month, so lets come up with a more sensible number.
Would you be willing to pay $5,000/month to get a premium AdSense account and share that rep with 20-30 other accounts?
You become premium when your account has the potential to bring Google tens of thousands per month, so lets come up with a more sensible number.
Yes, but how many $500k/month accounts could there be? I'm guessing that most Adsensers are in the $10-$10,000/month range.
If the idea behind assigning an Adsense Account Rep. is to further boost the riches of high-producing publishers... (and therefore boost Google's riches)..., then it would make sense that Google would want to see more and more high-producing publishers.
Which just means that those Account Reps could provide a good service to those who are not already Premium Publishers.
In essence, it appears that Google provides Account Reps to those few hundred (not sure about the number) Premium Publishers, while a few thousand of us non-Premiums could be potential Premiums if we were granted that one-on-one support.
if i was making 10grand a month, i might consider it, but only if i would contact them more than 5 times a month.
If the idea behind assigning an Adsense Account Rep. is to further boost the riches of high-producing publishers... (and therefore boost Google's riches)..., then it would make sense that Google would want to see more and more high-producing publishers.
Actually the idea behind the AdSense Rep is the further boost the riches of Google. The secondary benefit is that they boos the income of the publishers with a lot of traffic, but an under-performing ad setup.
That is basically how it works now. If they see that your site has the number of impressions for you to have that potential income, they contact you and invite you into the program.
Google is not running AdSense as a charity. You make money because they make money, not the other way around. The adsense reps are there to ensure that Google makes money.
If I had a blog that was earning $5/day from 1000 visitors, is it worth google's time to give me special attention to bring it up to $10/day? I don't think so.
Google has decided the point where they get their best return on investment.
You also need to consider that it is not simply a case of adding more bodies as AdSense reps. I would expect that they have to actually be smart, with both technical and people skills to match the job. They aren't just tech support/call center types.
