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I've changed LU size for 26 pix - manualy

Any bad experiences, anybody?

     
11:38 am on Apr 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I'm using 468x15_4 link unit on my page. And to cope in more esteticaly I've expanded my LU for 26 pixel, to be precise.
Has anybody had any bad experiences from google for changing code like this?

I know it is NOT allowed changing code in any way by uncle google, but the change in my opinion is really not that significant for google to be bothered at all.

What do ya think?

11:44 am on Apr 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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good luck
11:58 am on Apr 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I know it is NOT allowed changing code in any way by uncle google

Then not only are you breaking the TOS, but you KNOW you are breaking the TOS.

I look forward to you 'I've been banned and I don't know why!' post :)

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Yes, than you also shouldn't change colors manualy in code, but google approve's that.
So, if I only make small modifications in apperance ...
I better ask google service to see how hairsplitting they are.
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Of course you can change colours manually, because not all publishers are daft enough that they need to use the google adsense code generator for every tiny, within the rules, code change.

What you have changed is not within the rules, and is not possible using the code generator.

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I know it is NOT allowed changing code in any way by uncle google

Correct

.. but the change in my opinion is really not that significant for google to be bothered at all.

Malachite scratches head... By that statement then, would you argue that: if, the perpetrator is of the opinion that it is ok to cheat, click own ads, break TOS etc, that Google shouldn't be bothered about that either?

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malachite,
you're pointing with your "the perpetrator is of the opinion that" example on real cheating, on fraud, on screwing google, to be precise.

but with extending LU ad for 5,5% doesn't hurt google or anybody at all. it only improves apperance of my web page very slightly. veeeery slightly

I wrote to google and will report their answer here.
until then, let's wonder if they are human or not :)

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Extending the size by 5.5 percent doesn't really hurt Google or the advertisers but it's clearly a violation of the terms of service. It's almost the same as driving 10mph too fast - you don't hurt anyone, but it's not legal.
7:06 pm on Apr 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Maybe I've misunderstood what you are trying to do, but why not put the AdSense code in a DIV with an extra 26px and the same back colour as your Ads?
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malachite, you're pointing with your "the perpetrator is of the opinion that" example on real cheating, on fraud, on screwing google, to be precise

In principle, I'd probably agree with you, as your action isn't hurting or defrauding anyone.

Your question however, clearly indicated you'd breached Google's TOS, which includes all of the above, and what's more, indicated you KNEW you'd breached Google's TOS because, in your opinion, it wasn't hurting anybody.

Just because your opinion doesn't consider it matters, doesn't mean Google will agree with you. As others have already said, good luck.

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I agree. In fact, that's what I do. I just put it in a DIV, set the div's size and color, and set the border and background colors the same.
1:42 am on May 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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it only improves apperance of my web page very slightly. veeeery slightly

Yes, "slightly". This is exactly why some of us are incredulous. It's hard to believe that anyone could have so little respect for the TOS that they'd intentionally violate it over such a triviality.
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Yes, "slightly". This is exactly why some of us are incredulous. It's hard to believe that anyone could have so little respect for the TOS that they'd intentionally violate it over such a triviality.

Perhaps it's even worse than that. When you sign up for adsense (or almost any old thing) you AGREE (that is you PROMISE) TO abide by the rules. So, as far as I am concerned, there are far too many people who have so little respect for themselves, so little honesty, and don't even value their own word.

It's not just that it's a violation of TOS. It's breaking a commitment. I guess it's out of fashion to actually try to keep one's commitments these days.

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it's a difficult truth for anyone to accept. but i agree with you totally
5:54 pm on May 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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rbacal: I bet you stop on red light in the middle of the night, on clear roads when you can see for miles in all directions that there is only you and the traffic light and just waiting and waiting: because red means red
well, I don't

This is what I got. Very personally, indeed.

<paraphrased>
Publishers may not alter their provided Adsense code in any way, including
the way the ads appear, where the ad links, loading in a new window,
delivering users indirectly to the ad's URL (e.g. framing), altering the
'Ads by Google' label, or associating other ads with the Google ads or label.

More information about AdSense policies:
[google.com...]

Also see the AdSense Help Center:
[google.com...]

And the email was personally signed
<paraphrased>

<Sorry, no email quotes.
See Terms of Service [webmasterworld.com]>

[edited by: tedster at 6:42 pm (utc) on May 3, 2006]

6:00 pm on May 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Google's reply couldn't be much plainer then, could it. A big, fat "NO".

Just for info, you'll find it's against WW ToS to post the contents of emails here, so your previous post will probably be removed.

Perhaps you should read both sets of ToS a little more carefully, otherwise your next post may well be "I got banned and I don't know why."

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Of course you can change colours manually

Is that fact or fiction that the colours can be changed to match the website?

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rbacal: I bet you stop on red light in the middle of the night, on clear roads when you can see for miles in all directions that there is only you and the traffic light and just waiting and waiting: because red means red
well, I don't

Irrelevant. In effect you signed an implicit contract with google. Do you break your word, and violate contracts you have agreed to, just because it's convenient for you?

Nice way to do business. It's a great way to mess oneself up eventually.

PS. In a recent trip, I saw three speeders busted bigtime on the highway. I suppose since they didn't see any police, it was ok to speed. Their choice. They'll be paying BIG TIME for years in insurance, registration and other rates as a result.

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Is that fact or fiction that the colours can be changed to match the website?

You're kidding?

You've heard of blending surely?

Have you not seen the colour palette that Adsense provides? Log-in and go here:

[google.com...]

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You're kidding?

You've heard of blending surely?

I'll take that with the merit it deserves!

Of course I know how to change colours from the palette. But if a site doesn't match the palette, then the insinuation from the previous posting is that you can add your own colours.

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But if a site doesn't match the palette, then the insinuation from the previous posting is that you can add your own colours.

Insofar as I am aware that is precisely blending. I added my own colours to the generator and the code was automatically produced.

It is possible to change the colour simply by changing the standard code however sometimes I have seen that the colour is not rendered correctly therefore it is always recommended to do it with the generator.

Or am I missing something else?

7:14 pm on May 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Eazygoin, go through the code generator -- you can set all the colors to anything you want. The only limitation is that if you try to combine them so that any of the text is illegible, Google will override your preferences.
5:13 pm on May 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Vrbl you are mixing common sense with absolutism.
Of course it's a trivial change that hurts no one. BUT google's TOS doesn't even allow trivial changes. Therfore do not make a trivial change.

On the color change topic the same thing applies. You can edit the text from #000000 to #FFFFFF manualy to change the color which is against the TOS. You can also go through the code generator to make it spit out an identical text edit.

It is splitting hairs but if you have real money dependant on a trivial change i'd say don't take the risk.

 

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