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6:10 pm on Apr 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Anybody see this article?

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It seems to me the advice she is advocating is breaking the TOS in several areas! Take a look at the advice to "Place arrows or images next to your ads to draw attention to them."

It's a shame. I bet a lot of newbies will take her advice...

[edited by: martinibuster at 6:39 pm (utc) on April 8, 2006]
[edit reason] See TOS [webmasterworld.com] [/edit]

6:43 pm on Apr 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Oh the irony..
7:29 pm on Apr 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Indeed, the irony...

Hal, don't ya see you break WW TOS by posting a URL?

Anyways, Hal, you are right of course...

8:23 pm on Apr 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I was just trying to help!

OH WELL!

8:32 pm on Apr 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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arrows and other obnoxious techniques are within TOS.
9:31 pm on Apr 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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* arrows and other obnoxious techniques are within TOS. *
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I thought anything that brings undue attention to an adsense ad is against the TOS?

10:14 pm on Apr 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Yes, bringing undue attention to the ads is specifically prohibited. Call me crazy, but I personally don't feel like testing the boundaries of what Google considers "undue".
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Images next to the ads are OK. Exact words from Google Adsense peeps. Since an Arrow is an Image then I would have to say that is ok too.

EDIT: Would I ever use arrows on my websites--heck no talk about tacky.

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I have read in other forums of people who had their sites banned for images containing arrows next to their ads. Images of anything else seems to be OK.
I remember a celebrity site I saw once with stock photography ads showing up in the AdSense. The publisher placed profile pictures of different celebrities next to each one. That seemed pretty grey to me.
12:27 am on Apr 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Since an Arrow is an Image then I would have to say that is ok too.

Actually, I'm pretty sure that AdsenseAdvisor posted in these forums that arrows next to the ads would NOT be ok.

Images can be ok, but I think it's good if you ask Google first so you know if THEY consider it "undue" attention or not.

I know others have asked Google and gotten permission, and others have asked and been turned down. I think it's a case by case type thing depending how what the images are and how they are used.

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It is best to ask. I asked and they said that the images had to be "general" in nature, and not specific to any web site that might be in the ad block.

General pictures of Widgets are ok, if your ads are usually about Widgets.

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AdsenseAdvisor posted in these forums that arrows next to the ads would NOT be ok

And I second that, I saw it too.

Anyway, allow natural evolution to do its work, those that are illiterate or too lazy to read the TOS or too thick to understand it eventually get weeded out.

Survival of the literate I would say.

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Is it OK to place a "featured links" heading above an adlinks box? I saw this proposed in another article.
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"I was just trying to help!
OH WELL!"

We know Hal, and that is a good thing.
It was just funny that you didn't realize that you violated the WW TOS yourself. No big deal.
Welcome to WW and please keep posting!

Kind regards,

H.

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Images next to the ads are OK. Exact words from Google Adsense peeps. Since an Arrow is an Image then I would have to say that is ok too.

By this logic, an image saying "Click these ads!" would be fine; it would be an image, and images are okay, right?

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A few people in this thread have given incorrect advice, so here's the straight dope:

AdSenseAdvisor wrote

using arrows to point to AdSense ads is prohibited by our program policies

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By this logic, an image saying "Click these ads!" would be fine; it would be an image, and images are okay, right?

LOL - WOW good point.

Guess I stand corrected on this entire issue.

If AdsenseAdvisor says it is bad then don't do it. On that same note if we go by adsenseadvisors post then I would have to say that ANY IMAGE draws undo attention to the ad.

We can really then get into a debate about what is undo attention.

Using a day glow border?

How bout a flashing border?

What about whitespace?(seen pages you load up where all you see is the ad and you have to scroll for title/content etc.)

What about a black and white website and the ads being the only thing in color?

All text website showing image only ads?

The list could go on and on TOS that are open to interpretation are stressful for all of us. Publishers can often cross the line by accident just because they have a different view than Google has.

EDIT: GOOGLE has the final word. But in situations that are open to interpretation(like these) I hope they warn the Website owners, first, rather than an outright ban.

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I guess it must be on a case by case basis.

I don't use them but I've tried everything at least once and I've never tried anything without asking first.