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Even if they might site-target me later on, I am positive that one walk in direct advertiser is hundreds of times more profitable than tens of $20 adwords conversions.
I haven't figured out an answer for this one yet, Google has not sold me on why I should do that, and it is exactly why I am yet to opt in for the "advertise on this site" option.
On the other hand, and after my responsibility for my own business success is fulfilled, I am totally for supporting the network from which I benefit, and don't mind giving a hand in growing it, but there is the little matter of conflict in interest that needs to be sorted out by Google marketing team first..
Maybe the carrots they have been dangling are too tiny, first the Google referral that I joined knowing it can bring in more competition and dilute my niche (in which I am number 1 by the way), but if it is bound to happen I might as well make some money (still waiting for that first $100) and now another unclear issue with AdWords too.
Hoping the discussion here will help me make up my mind on the AdWords referral.
--Hobbs
I want a button that says "Advertise On This Site With Google"... not "bring in traffic" or whatever they have going there.
I do hear what people are saying about feeding competition, though. But I'm not into running my own ad network at all. I don't need the trouble and don't have the scale to make it worthwhile yet.
I'm so-so on even testing it, let alone running with it. Maybe if I could preface it with some text saying "click here to advertise on our network". But then I really don't like even drawing that much attention to how our ads are served.
$20 doesn't seem like much, given that some advertisers will spend tens of thousands on it a year.
I want a button that says "Advertise On This Site With Google"... not "bring in traffic" or whatever they have going there.
Well they do sort of have that available in the regular ad blocks. The ad blocks have the "Ads by Google" and "Advertise on this Website" text at the bottom.
That's what the "Onsite Advertiser Sign-Up" is about in your Adsense Account Settings.
In my country I already have this referral for several weeks now. But I didn't use it yet. Got 20 Adsense referral sign-ups and zero cash...
I think this post is different than the existing adSENSE referral program.
This new program launch is for referring new adWORDS advertisers, not new adSENSE publishers.
So if you have a website that caters to merchants looking to buy online advertising (like a webhosting company for example, where all your customers are looking to promote their business), then this new program seems like it makes perfect sense.
I don't think it is aimed at the folks who are already selling directly to advertisers or even people who want advertisers to site target their site.
The idea is if you have a demographic that is looking for more advertising opportunities, you've probably already told people about PPC ads through Adwords or Overture (and done it for free). This new program just lets you get paid for sending referrals that turn into actual paying advertisers.
I don't think it is aimed at the folks who are already selling directly to advertisers or even people who want advertisers to site target their site
Wouldn't that exclude most of us here? If true then this new referral program is not going to last long.
if you have a website that caters to merchants looking to buy online advertising
I would love to have one of them sites!
Rubbing shoulders with advertisers and not selling them ads but referring them to a network for a possible $20, I have to be either mad or the owner of WebmasterWorld!
"In my country I already have this referral for several weeks now. But I didn't use it yet. Got 20 Adsense referral sign-ups and zero cash..."
"I think this post is different than the existing adSENSE referral program.
This new program launch is for referring new adWORDS advertisers, not new adSENSE publishers."
I know, it's like I said.
In my country I already have the adWORDS referral for weeks now, so it's not new to me. And the reason why I did not use it yet is that I have 20 adSENSE referral sign-ups, and that didn't pay me anything yet. So I am not yet convinced that the "new" adWORDS referral program is worth our webspace.
I don't think it is aimed at the folks who are already selling directly to advertisers or even people who want advertisers to site target their site
Wouldn't that exclude most of us here? If true then this new referral program is not going to last long.
I don't think that would exclude most of us here at all. How do you figure?
The point I was making was that it's a whole different program than trying get paid for advertisers site targeting you.
would love to have one of them sites!
Rubbing shoulders with advertisers and not selling them ads but referring them to a network for a possible $20, I have to be either mad or the owner of WebmasterWorld!
Think a bit wider :)
As I mentioned, a good example would be a web hosting company. They aren't going to "sell ads" to their hosting customers directly. They don't have "ad space" or any targeted content or 1000's of search engine results to advertise on. Advertising is not their business.
So when they get a support ticket from the new customer asking how to get traffic to their website, they say "Try Adwords or Overture for advertising".
Now with the link (that they can place in the customer's control panel), they have the possibility of getting paid for that referral.
There are many other such situations where a person or company would be in the position to refer merchants to Adwords.
I know, it's like I said.
In my country I already have the adWORDS referral for weeks now, so it's not new to me. And the reason why I did not use it yet is that I have 20 adSENSE referral sign-ups, and that didn't pay me anything yet. So I am not yet convinced that the "new" adWORDS referral program is worth our webspace.
Sorry humblebeginnings, it wasn't clear from your post that you were talking about the same thing.
Still not sure how the two are necessarily related in potential earnings, but thanks for clearing up my misunderstanding.
There are many other such situations where a person or company would be in the position to refer merchants to Adwords
Help me think wider, other than a hosting company, who else is likley to have mass advertisers and opting for the 'possible' $20?
As I said, I am hoping to be sold on the idea, another revenue stream is nothing I would pass on without good consideration.
I don't think that would exclude most of us here at all. How do you figure?
because I thought most publishers here are "selling directly to advertisers or .. want advertisers to site target their site"
I would love to have one of them sites!
Rubbing shoulders with advertisers and not selling them ads but referring them to a network for a possible $20, I have to be either mad or the owner of WebmasterWorld!
LOL exactly what i was thinking.....$20? GIVE ME A BRAKE. I make $1000 per direct banner signup per three months campaigns. Going to refer them to Adwords, yah right.
Suckers trap if you ask me. Stick to selling your own direct advertising programs if you have any respect left for your site!
Same for AdWords referrals. Rather sell my own space for 10 or 100 times the amount. $20 bucks? pfft!
PS: Sorry, just needed to let out my anger a bit.
because I thought most publishers here are "selling directly to advertisers or .. want advertisers to site target their site"
There are lots of different types of publishers and webmasters that visit these forums :)
I won't try to sell you on the idea of Adwords referrals (that's Google's job :)
But for those websites and markets it applies to, it makes perfect sense.