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Is Google really strict?

         

sahil123

1:33 pm on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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That question puzzles me again and again. I found many site on which i saw " please click these ads ". To study them i constantly visited to their site. But found that they are still not deactivated by Google. And in one case i heard that a webmaster clicked his own ads twice in a day and got deactivated. Why is this partiality? I found G lenient in most of the cases. I think google must have directed its bots to search for " please click these ads " like words. Then why are they unable to catch these sites.

OptiRex

1:37 pm on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)



Then why are they unable to catch these sites.

This has been discussed many times and we are all at a loss as to exactly why Google will not do anything about it.

Is it their lack of manpower or do they deem it too "trivial" with which to bother?

It's certainly extremely annoying for those of use who abide by the T&Cs since it not exactly very difficult to Google for those phrases.

Nitrous

1:45 pm on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)



They are not that interested because people that click because they are told to do so dont buy. So the site just gets smartpriced more heavily in the long term because these clicks do not convert..

sahil123

1:47 pm on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"So the site just gets smartpriced more heavily in the long term because these clicks do not convert..."

Can you explain that a bit for me.

Nitrous

2:00 pm on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)



Google track (how accurately we dont know) conversions.

So if you have an obvious ad - not blended, only one ad block on a well written review, with say 10 pages, about say a new (d200 in my case) camera - then the chances are that the guy that read that far and clicks will be at least looking to buy one. The price you will be paid for that click will be high!

Opposite extreme. An MFA page with little content and your clicker got there by following a misleading but interesting looking ad. (Probably on my pages!) Now this guy clicks the SAME ad as before but will not buy a camera. He just clicked to escape. Conversion will be zero in this case. The mfa gets paid 3 cents if lucky. That is how smartpricing is supposed to work. And it does in the long term.

So asking visitors to click is NOT going to help you a few weeks later (2 months in most cases) after smart pricing sees the results of ads on your pages.

Adding 3 adblocks to a page to replace a single one has a slightly similar effect. The ads are more likely to be clicked but they are less likely to convert. So you earn a lower ecpm (ad block) even though you get a higher click through on the page.

[edited by: Nitrous at 2:11 pm (utc) on Mar. 21, 2006]

sahil123

2:03 pm on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Thanks..i did not know that before.

Nitrous

2:04 pm on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)



Its why all these crappy sites "written around a keyword" never really work in the end. And I am pleased.

sahil123

2:08 pm on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I think i am between the right people in this forum. I would learn lot of new things here. This forum ROCKS. Isn't it..

Nitrous

2:10 pm on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)



Doesn't it!

sahil123

2:15 pm on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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It does.

jetteroheller

7:26 pm on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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They work on it. I reported a web site with something like
"Pleas visit all our competitors to see, that we are the best"
just above a leader board

They have now something like "Phone us for a nice chat"

gregbo

10:23 pm on Mar 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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That question puzzles me again and again. I found many site on which i saw " please click these ads ". [...] Then why are they unable to catch these sites.

Perhaps G has not caught them yet. Perhaps by the time someone at G looks at these sites, they've taken those click solicitations down, and G doesn't feel a need to drop them from AdSense.

Ironically, one of the Xooglers violated the AdSense TOS early in the history of that site. Go figure.

anton23

12:13 am on Mar 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"Click my ads" on sites without revenue are not a problem, since google or the advertisers are not expending money on them. Probably if you click twice on a $10 ad on your site, you have higher chances of getting kicked out.

driris

12:21 am on Mar 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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i have reported one site with very high traffic full of pornography to google few weeks back but still ads are there...

another site with same theme is displaying 'click on google ads on your every visit to keep this site running' ...i am wondering whether to report google or not?

sahil123

3:10 pm on Mar 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I think there is no point reporting a fraud site to G. Let this work to be done by G themselves.

jomaxx

5:57 pm on Mar 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Let this work to be done by G themselves.

No. Cheating sites degrade the value of AdSense and cost all of us money. I think you'll find most honest AdSensers will report sites that are blatantly breaking the rules.

sahil123

12:40 pm on Mar 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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So should i report to G, if i find any fraud site?

jomaxx

4:19 pm on Mar 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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It's up to you. I just responded because you phrased your opinion like an instruction. Personally I report sites that are clearly and intentionally breaking the rules, but I come across them less than once a month.

jema

4:58 pm on Mar 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Fraud hits decent advertisers and publishers alike :(

I'd say always report it.

sahil123

5:00 pm on Mar 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I will definitely report from now onwards.