New Adsense Accounts

What do you think about a one year waiting period?

[G_Smitty]

MFA's sites are really getting on my last nerves. I have been reading all of the posts recently about creating sites for Adsense and keyword manipulation and it really irks me. It seems that a majority of new members requesting assistance do not even have an established website or even a topic for a website.

Create a site on what you know and not on what will potentially earn you higher Adsense earnings. Sites like mine have been and will be around long after PPC programs are gone.

I have no problems sharing information with those who have established niche's. But why should we aid and promote the development of MFA sites?

It has taken me years to develop the skills and knowledge for a successful website and high earnings. Why do others think that they should be able to do it within weeks?

Do you think that if Google implemented some type of waiting period it would weed out MFA sites? I think a one year wait would be sufficient. Most of us were established for many years before we actually joined the program.

[celgins]

A one-year wait is kind of long, but it would definitely discourage some MFA site-builders from pursuing their 10-sites-per-day goal.

On the other hand, Google makes a lot of money from MFA's, so you have to wonder if they'll ever aggressively exterminate them. There are thousands that exist and they allow them to thrive.

[hal12b]

One year is too long of a wait. I think maybe a month tops.... It is not fair for publishers with legitimate web sites to have to wait. Most of the people looking to make "millions" in a couple of months will jump ship if they have to wait probably much over a month. They'll move on to the next "great thing", make nothing and move on to a "better and greater program".

[jomaxx]

A one-year wait for what? Getting an account after applying? Putting AdSense on a new domain? Putting AdSense on a new site on a previously registered domain?

I doubt Google would consider any of these things because the time period is not what makes the site worthwhile or not. Besides, this suggestion kind of feels like an attempt at locking the gate behind you.

I'm as annoyed as anyone over the rush to create crappy sites, in fact I complained about it in another thread earlier today. But I don't think this suggestion addresses the quality issue. And by "quality" I'm setting the bar pretty low - as in "does this site conceivably serve any purpose whatsoever?".

[jonathanleger]

If there's a one-year waiting period people will just buy domains that have expired and are at least a year old. A waiting period solves nothing.

[Erku]

I would say not one year, but untill a site reaches to a certain level of traffic from non advertising sources, but from organic search and repit visitors.

Honest publishers need long lasting Adsense, as well as good advertisers, who need the publishers for distribution. But if the advertiser does not make maoney, he/she will not continue and the CPM will go down.

When you are new, one or two clicks a day are big deal. But when you are 9 months old site, or have a good traffic and get 200-300 clicks a day, you will never go after that one or two "clicks." Rater, you will spend your time building a lasting business.

[jonathanleger]

I would say not one year, but untill a site reaches to a certain level of traffic from non advertising sources, but from organic search and repit visitors.

That won't work either. In the huge thread going on right now about Markus, who made $1 million in 3 months, Markus said only 2% of his traffic is from search engines. So by this standard, his multi-million dollar anual site would not be allowed into AdSense.

There are many sources of traffic just as valid (and just as targetted) as search engines.

[G_Smitty]

I am not suggesting locking the gate for any site other than new MFA sites. I wouldn't think that a waiting period of even a few months would hurt anyone other than MFAs. How many new legitimate online business ventures would actually include Adsense in their business plan? The waiting period would start once you apply and not when the domain name came into being.

Have things change during the last few years. When they opened Adsense up to all publishers a few years ago wasn't it harder to get your site approved? Is it just me or is it easier now? I had never heard of Adsense until I received an invitation email from Google a few years back, and even then it seems like it took sometime to get approved.

If this is not the answer then maybe we should limit the amount of help that they are receiving from forums. If you read a post like the following, would you help?

"How long before I get approval for Adsense? I applied last week and will be publishing my new site tomorrow. I think the site will be in the medical field."

"Can anyone help me find a niche? I would like to create a website with adsense?"

"I got 12 clicks yesterday but only had two page views. What can I do to get more visitors?"

"Should I change the theme of my site from frog collecting to plastic surgery since that keyword pays more?"

The postings may not have been worded as the above, but they say the same thing.

[david_uk]

The adwords quality score is meant to look at landing pages and hike the price to appear up if the landing page is of poor quality (IE little or no content, or just keywords). Now if that worked, and MFA's were charged a lot to appear that would help.

I think it needs Google to act against these sites, but at the moment they don't. I've repeatedly reported MFA's that flagrantly breach both adsense and adwords TOS, but they are still there. Until Google does anything to solve the problem, blocking MFA's is your solution.