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Bad targetting, low epc, zillions of new MFAs, Google Down

Strange Days: Anyone Know what is REALLY happening?

     
11:54 pm on Mar 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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There is something odd happening for days now. Bad targetting, low epc, zillions of new MFAs (to try and block) and stories of google "down" whatever that really means!

Does anyone know whats really happeneing/happened?

Please only post facts, and if your earnings are down state traffic/income because less that a good few thousand and say 50 dollars a day is too statistically liable to variation to be of any real use.

In my case I went from an average of 128 daily dollars for months to about 120, 110, 90, 85 dollars daily, not in that order, but its odd. Around 7000 page views a day. And stats are REALLY slow...

Been stable for years. Traffic as reported by google adsense is low. So it must be a bit "down" somewhere!But only a little low according to my own server stats.

I suppose they will fix things but its interesting to know whats really happeneng.

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I went from an average of 128 daily dollars for months to about 120, 110, 90, 85 dollars daily

in other threads you mentioned that blocking sites has improved your results; did doing so just improve your eCPM and not your overall revenue?

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Some people aren't comfortable with the irregularities of Google ad revenue. Google is constantly tweeking the system and personal incomes can and do vary 50% and more from time to time. At times you may even see your income decline more than 50% and stay there for months.

If you are uncomfortable dealing with these sorts of issues regularly, possibly you should consider another, more steady, source for your income.

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Some people aren't comfortable with the irregularities of Google ad revenue. Google is constantly tweeking the system and personal incomes can and do vary 50% and more from time to time. At times you may even see your income decline more than 50% and stay there for months.If you are uncomfortable dealing with these sorts of issues regularly, possibly you should consider another, more steady, source for your income.

I have been with Adsense for more than two years. I receive 30,000 page views per day and never see more than a 10% daily swing (Until This Weekend).

Maybe it is normal for your site to see a 50% decline in earnings; however that is more than enough to cause concern for many of us.

Just because we post these concerns does not mean anything other than we are trying to maximize are revenues. I would never be comfortable with any irregularities in any of my business ventures.

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If you all had read Nitrous's other posts you would know that he has a large "stable" of sites across different subjects and that as a result his stats are usually very stable.

If he's been seeing a change for a few days it may be something real. I haven't noticed a change, but I have only one site.

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Last 7 days have seen a dramatic decrease in clicks and income for me, with steady page impressions.

From 0.5% to 0.3% CTR and much lower revenues from the clicks that I am getting.

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Yes I had a huge drop yesterday and even bigger today. My stats are usually fairly stable, but my earnings for yesterday and today are unbelievably low. I haven't seen earnings this low in a long time. Well below what I would normally consider a bad day. I really can't fgure it out.
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I usually don't like Mondays, but after my last 2 days of terrible revenue, I am looking forward to a "fresh start?"
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I must say my earnings are lower than usual today too
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14th worst day since Sep, 2003
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For me Saturday was a very bad day and today is not better.

The problem is the payment and the fact that my clicks are UP by 20%....

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There is something odd happening for days now. Bad targetting, low epc, zillions of new MFAs (to try and block) and stories of google "down" whatever that really means!

I don't see any of the complaints as something new. If anything has happened, I would guess that as more people become obsessed with adding sites to their competitive ad filter their income goes down.

That something unique is going on lately, no. People have been complaining about site targeting and MFAs pretty much since the beginning of this forum.

Bad Targeting
June 27, 2003
Completely irrelevant ads showing up
[webmasterworld.com...]

Apr 28, 2004
Bad Adsense targeting is back
or is it just me?

[webmasterworld.com...]

June 2, 2004
Webmaster-assisted targeting
Let's debate pros, cons, and possibilities

[webmasterworld.com...]

July 31, 2004
Targetting down the tubes today.
[webmasterworld.com...]

Added quote to which I was responding to

[edited by: martinibuster at 7:15 am (utc) on Mar. 6, 2006]

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I don't filter any ads, and my epc dropped sharply this weekend.
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I seem to have a good click through rate, so it must be that ads aren't paying a well for some reason. Hopefully it's temporary.
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I run a dozen sites accross a range of unrelated topics, and I have always thought short-term ups and downs were silly to worry about.

But yesterday and today my EPC has suddeny dived, cutting my earnings by 50%. Traffic and ctr are within norms.

I understand swings, but earnings have been rock steady for 80 days before this: no variance beyond standard deviation as figured for last 90 days.

I have not changed my blocked-ads list, so its not that.

Please don't try to tell me that a 50% swing in performance is a normal AdSense occurance. I know much, much better.

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...my epc dropped sharply this weekend.

It's Oscar weekend, the Academy Awards [oscars.org]. Millions are glued to their television. I think a drop in earnings should be expected this weekend, especially today.

[edited by: martinibuster at 6:06 am (utc) on Mar. 6, 2006]

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Glad Martini cleared this up!
His insight is quite astounding.
I can sleep now!
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Sure, its the Oscars.

Except for one thing: no one's watching. Look at the ratings forecasts.

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There are related threads in the Adword forum.
6:39 am on Mar 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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hehe.
You guys are great, seriously. :)

My earnings are down this weekend too. They've been raging all February and so far this month, too. Then bam, down this weekend. Happens from time to time, though. I just try not to panic, because historically my earnings recover.

If todays earning level continues for the coming week then I'll probably worry and take some action.

Maybe it's a coincidence that this weekend's slump coincides with Oscar weekend? I'm willing to believe that if this weekend's slump continues. I'm just throwing it out there that a possible explanation for a slump is that there's a major event going on this weekend.

I don't mean to discount that others haven't been doing well this year, and I'm not discounting that something happened with the Adsense system this weekend. What I am trying to do is look at this from a historical perspective.

By all means, feel free to bring me down to earth, because that's what discussion is all about, and I'm definitely open to listening to a well thought out theory about what may or may not be going on. ;)

For as long as I've been reading this forum, people have consistently been wondering if something has been going on because their earnings just dropped. For every person that isn't doing well, there are others who state they are doing well or better. This has been going on for as long as I've been reading this forum.

What's scary is: After all the alarms over the years, what if something REALLY did happen? How would we recognize it?

There are related threads in the Adword forum.

Would be nice if you can list one or two of them. I just took a peek and didn't see which ones you were referring to.

Fwiw, I haven't observed anything odd with my AW accounts.

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Sorry not buying the Oscar thingy, competitive filter, so called smart pricing, or traffic loss. This crap started on Saturday the best I can tell. There appears to be three threads about this in AdSense forum and one in the adwords forum ([webmasterworld.com ])complaining about conversions.

Wait until tomorrow morning when people get back to work and start checking their stats. I think we will see some real screaming going on.

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I usually stay out of the "my earnings are up my earnings are down" threads. I'm used to various types of fluxuations in my Adsense earnings and know it can be caused by many factors

After Google's outage as reported in this thread:
[webmasterworld.com...]

Something SERIOUS happened. PSAs across whole sites, FULLY untargeted ads, no ads at all on 2+ year stable sites.

All the flucuations before that point that I've seen have been "normal".

Yesterday, something else happened that messed things up and tanked earnings royally. Hopefully they've fixed it, but I have a feeling that somthing is still off.

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"For every person that isn't doing well, there are others who state they are doing well or better."

Martini,

Is that for a fact?
I mean, did you count?
In this thread alone I count 13 people who specifically state that they are having Adsense trouble right now, and none who report an increase in earnings. Perhaps my count is not fully accurate, but I think it's close...

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>>>In this thread alone I count...

Please before commenting on my post, please read the entire post. I am not discounting that there is an earnings slowdown this weekend.

That statement you quoted was a comment on the last three years of fluctuation posts in this forum. It was not a comment on this weekend's dip.

Maybe you missed this part?

I'm not discounting that something happened with the Adsense system this weekend.

And this part:

My earnings are down this weekend too.
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People still watch the Oscars doings?

Well of course some people do, but I thought they were too dim to use a computer.

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In fairness to martinibuster if I was a moderator and read this thread I would think it was just the normal my earning have tanked.

But I do believe that something happened this weekend and it does not effect all sites. I have over 100 sites some of which I have would have never guessed would have such low earnings. Others do not seem to be effected. It is more then a waiting for a click dump sort of thing.

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My eCPM and earnings halved on Friday and clicks were down by 40% on an account which has been remarkably stable for the past 18 months. I'm not one to worry about the odd fluctuation either way, but this was quite evidently a case of something, somewhere being plain out of whack, and for once it wasn't my server.

Things are picking up a little now though.

Added: oh yes, my main site is in a non-English market, where it's highly unlikely the Oscars can be taken as the scapegoat.

[edited by: zCat at 7:32 am (utc) on Mar. 6, 2006]

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Come on Martini, now you're shooting from the hip,

"Please before commenting on my post, please read the entire post."

I did read your entire post. I always read entire posts (unless I am in an extremely lazy mood of course...)

"I am not discounting that there is an earnings slowdown this weekend."

And I am not denying that you said that.

"That statement you quoted was a comment on the last three years of fluctuation posts in this forum. It was not a comment on this weekend's dip."

Yes, I read that, and that's even more ambitious than just making a statement about this weekend. Of course I can't ask you to redo the count for the past 3 years, but it looks like if there are situations like these (many people complaining about a drop in earnings) there are always folks (in this case you) telling that for every complaint there is one praise. But if I do the math, it usually doesn't add up.

"I'm not discounting that something happened with the Adsense system this weekend."

Again, I didn't deny that.

"My earnings are down this weekend too."

I read that too, I included you in my count!

[edited by: martinibuster at 7:57 am (utc) on Mar. 6, 2006]
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Just want to clarify something about the topic of this thread:

There is something odd happening for days now. Bad targetting, low epc, zillions of new MFAs (to try and block) and stories of google "down" whatever that really means!

My post in message #12 is a response to the above statement by the OP.

The OP posted the above, talking about MFAs, Bad targeting, low epc, as events happening over a period of days, PLUS the server outage thingy all taken together. I interpreted the original post as that, and responded to it as that in message #12.

I can't speak to the OP's original intent, but my interpretation of this thread when I posted in message #12 is that it was not about this weekend. It's about weirdness going on from before this weekend, and including this weekend, and putting it all together and trying to figure out if there is a connection.

My message#12 is a response to his post under that interpretation. Some people are jumping on my back as if I'm discounting that something happened this weekend. I am not discounting that something happened this weekend.

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I meant no offense, Martinibuster. Sorry.
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