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9:33 pm on Mar 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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camweh's posting for age, number of sites, and earnings is interesting considering just how many greymasters, and mistresses, there are here!

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I am completely self-taught from the days of Sinclair ZX80's, 81's, Spectrums and QL's graduating to Amstrad 8256/8512 and then on to PCs. Never a Mac in sight...

I hesitated when I wrote graduating to Amstrads just then:-)

I have never had any formal training whether at night class or paid for by the company, everything's been by trial and error since everything I have ever done with computing and web sites has been trying to forecast future business needs.

I was wondering just how many have actually had any kind of formal training and how many saw Adsense as a good way forward of earning money and actually took it upon themselves to learn "how to do it"?

Do any of the corporate Adsensers have any training programmes? If so, is it in-house or how is it done?

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My web development skills are self-taught, but my computer technology skills started with completing a college degree.

I'd also be interested in hearing about any of the corporate Adsensers training programmes.

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I learned IT (some programming and database management) at school but with webmastering it's mostly self-taught. I did make a web site for a class project once but I taught myself how to do it. I think webmastering is just one of those things that you learn on your own. I mean other than concepts like content is king, which really applies to all mediums what could be put in a book that would not be out of date before it got published?
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IT college degree, adsense & seo is self-taught
10:12 pm on Mar 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Self taught - but I don't really know anything so it was easy to do.
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My first computer was a Sinclair 1000 with 2K of RAM. My parents wouldn't spring for the optional cassette recorder, so I had to re-enter my little programs every time I turned it on. I don't miss that little membrane keyboard.

I've never profited from "book learning" when it comes to AdSense or the Web. I wrote my first webpage in the 90s right after I first clicked "View Source."

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No formal training, but my experience in magazine and book publishing, advertising, freelance writing, and the online industry (MSN, Delphi, and About.com) obviously came in handy when--in 2001--I launched the Web site that now earns me a living.

I'm not a techie per se, but I've been using PCs since 1982 and have been online since 1989. And I developed my awareness of the global audience as a shortwave listener and ham-radio operator more than 40 years ago. :-)

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Our first computer was an Apple II+. My dad was so proud of himself for deciding on the upgrade to 48K of RAM. :)

On the I.T. side- mostly self-taught & on-the-job training. Some formal university level programming and database classes, but mostly just got general theory/procedures from them- not actively using any languages I actually studied.

My second bachelors degree was in Business & Management and I worked on an MBA. But the stuff I use every day? Again, mostly self-taught or through 1- or 2-day focused seminars.

10:37 pm on Mar 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Amstrad PCW for me too - ah, the good old days. remember Locosript word processor, the "Cracker" spreadsheet (horrid abomination) and some other programs I can't remember all these years later.

Oh, to answer the original question I'm self taught. I set up my website because nobody else in the group wanted to, so I got forced int learning webmastering. Paid off though :) :)

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Learned from my son and now paying for his college.
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First PC was 4.7 Mhz and actually had a Turbo Sticker on it due to the then high speed, those were the days! Been though almost all platforms & OS's..

Bachelors degree Computer Science & Electronics, a wall paper of certifications none web related.

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My first computer was an RCA 1802 pile of chips in a box and I wire wrapped the thing together, built a keyboard, yada yada.

You newbies and your computers-to-go, BAH!

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My For dummies books and I are going to go hide in the corner...

Self taught, and asked questions everywhere I could find someone to answer them. Usually my son did but he would get out of sorts with me at times (but still very supportive).

Most people thought I was speaking a foreign language *sigh* those were the days. Went through 2 used computers and 2 new ones until I finally learned what made a computer tick.

Been at it since 1996.

If it had not been for my youngest son, A more motivated computer whiz than I will ever be, I would have went mad, MAD I say, just looking for conversation. LOL

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This forum and a couple Pubcon sessions are as close to "training" as I've had.

Beyond that it's been trial and error for me.

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Self taught. When I was in college the computer took up the whole room or rooms depending upon the computer and we had to create a stack of punch cards to run the simplest of programs. No monitors, just print-out telling you the answer or where your program contained the first error. Now look where we are.
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Poorly self taught. Have been making websites from about '97, had millions upon millions of visitors, yet total earnings will be less than what many people earn in a few months here.
With hindsight I would have kept all the domains I ever purchased (Some of them still haunt me at night) and kept certain projects open, even if it didn't mean updating them. I once had a holding page with xx thousand unique hits per day simply saying "We are closed for business". Cute, but ultimately, stupid.
Anyone want to join me in creating a time machine? I'm quite confident most people on here would do things a little differently knowing what they know now.
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Anyone want to join me in creating a time machine?

Too late, it was invented a LONG time ago, it's called beer.

You drink a few of them and the present and future all slip away as the conversation turns to coulda, shoulda, woulda and this all preceeds the climax that culminates with the crying in the beer.

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You guys are making my 386/16 MHZ 4MB Ram and 60 meg HD sound like a dream machine.
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I started with an xt from when working in sales (didn't know squat about computers) at a "Build your own computer" company ( FUN TIMES!)Telex, dbase, lotus123 in the 80's. Everything seemed to come real easy to me so I've been plunking away ever since :)

No official college training, but really should consider WW training!

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I hesitate to call myself an "anything" master but I can date myself a bit by saying I remember punchcards from back in gradeschool. My only formal computer schooling came in the first years of exploration in college, pascal programming. It taught me that I shouldn't be a programmer since I couldn't find my own errors. I always thought my code was right. My brain just fills in what should be there so I never see it when it isn't.

Thank god my error log tells me what line to look at (most of the time).

Freq---

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No formal training on web dev/adsense.

In my case I've learned everything I know from forums and online resources such as WebmasterWorld. So it's all trial and error for me.

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I'm self taught, but I'm incredibly novice! I find it fun and challenging to maintain a website.
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My first computer [obsoletecomputermuseum.org] was an OSI C1P ~ 1978. Been programming ever since. 27 years of experience and I'm only 34 years old. Man, I'm old. :)

I've have a lot of formal computer education over the years but in retrospect, the education is about as relevant now as last years computers and fads were. I would consider myself mostly self taught.

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I installed slackware linux on my home computer when i was about 15(19 years old now) becuase i heard all the cool hackers used linux, lol. Basically i didn't know hardly anything, and one day i stumbled over some program called Apache, and found out it was a webhost software. I was fascinated by the idea of creating my own webpage and hosting it from my own computer. I spent a lot of time setting it up and learning HTML.

My knowledge has just kept growing from there(self taught), but that was the main starting point.

Conserning Adsense, my main source of information and learning over the years have come from this forum. Thanks guys!

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I've been in IT since 1972, with on-the-job training, running a DEC PDP11/20, followed by a DEC PDP11/40, then Datapoint, Sperry-Univac, Xerox Sigma VII, further DEC machines, and IBM AS/400's. Bought my first PC, a PC's Limited (now Dell), in 1985. Morphed that PC into a Pentium 90 around 1990. Later bought a dud of a PC that self destructed, then another Dell. The Pentium 90 still runs but is little used - it's the only PC I have that will read a 5-1/4 inch floppy if I ever decide to dig them out of boxes in the garage for kicks (loads of cool, old games on them).

Worked as an RPG III/IV programmer for several years, although I had schooling in Cobol. Programming bored me to tears so I'm now back in Operations which I find much more entertaining. A "Computer Systems Technician" is what it is called these days, rather than the old "Computer Operator".

As for websites - I'm self taught. It's been my major hobby since 1998. My first sites were more of a learning experience than anything that could be of use to anyone other than myself, unless someone would want to know what not to do. Launched my oldest site in 2000 using free hosting for a couple of years before getting a domain name for it and 'real' hosting. I prefer to use a WYSIWYG editor as hand coding a page, although I can do it, takes me absolutely forever since I lose my train of thought when I switch between coding and content.

I have never ever so much as touched a Mac. Not sure if I've even seen one in person. Always thought they were toys.

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Anybody remember those little wooden computers where you slid the mouse up and down till the marks lined up?
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Most of my PC experience came from fiddling about on our x286 during the afternoon after school, breaking it and having to fix it before my dad got home from work!

Since then, an engineering degree (haven't ever used it) and experience in IT department (just about paid the bills) are all the 'formal' training I've had. But I can honestly say that all the useful things I've learnt, I've taught myself and learnt from others.

I'm not a huge fan of normal education. I want to be taught how to learn, not taught how to remember information.

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Self-taught, on trial & error.
I believe this is also the case in other aspects of life. Mostly you learn from trying and fiddling with everything. Formal training might induce a touch of professionalism, but then the fun and joy of learning something yourself evaporates.
As for being the master, i am far from it, still on the learning curve.

Judging from everybody's posts, looks like we have the oldest computer users on this forum! As for me, i first took on computers around 1997, relatively late, but then i am young too.

Adieu.

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Self taught.

My first PC was a Timex Sinclair 1000, with the extra memory module and tape recorder cable. That squishy keyboard was lame and couldnt wait until I got my first PC with a real keyboard. Sigh.. I still remember plugging in code with a black and white TV as a monitor.

My next one was the Commodore Plus 4 which had the built in word processor, spreadsheet and graph program.

Went from there to the Commodore 64 with my killer 300 baud modem with PULSE dialing. Spent many a night on GEnie exchange phone cards and other phreaking material.

When I got to college I started tinkering with the x86's and the rest is history.

Took a few college courses in computers but none of them took because none of the professors really understood computers yet, and I didn't have the math at the time to take CS.

Taught myself everything I know about writing code and sometimes it shows in my form. All my webmastering knowledge is self taught.

To me, self taught is just a better way of saying "I tinkered with stuff, broke it, and learned how to fix it".

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Anybody remember those little wooden computers where you slid the mouse up and down till the marks lined up?

The slide rule? Had a decimal point problem.

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