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How Does Google Understand

That You Clicked on Your Own AdSense Ads?

         

coool

10:03 am on Feb 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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how google understand that i click on the my ads?
ip or cooki?
tank u for your answer.

frox

10:36 am on Feb 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Google is not interested in the simple fact "you click on your ads".

Google is interested in a much wider concept "fraudulent clicks", of which clicking on one's ads is only a specific, (and quite naive) aspect.

Anyway, let's say that Google has 100 times more information on your clicks than you have, and being smarter than Google is not ... easy (read: feasible).

Also, my personal idea is that Google prefers to err on the side of "publisher's guilt", so if they have a simple supect (read: some statistical factors are "borderline"), yopu just get banned.

Believe me, your time and energy are betters spent developing sites than pondering on these problems!

GoldenHammer

11:06 am on Feb 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Why you would like to spend your effort to study this?

Moglex

11:09 am on Feb 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I don't think google have any problems detecting fraudulent clicks, no matter what the scale the felon is working at.

Their main problem, I would imagine, is trying to determine where the fraudster is the publisher, or a competitor of either the publisher or advertiser.

Despite what some here have said about getting banned because a competitor was clicking ads on their site, I'm sure google must be using some intellignece when fraudulent click patterns are detected, otherwise the adsense programme would be unusable.

Iguana

11:11 am on Feb 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Is this question going to come up every day? We all know it's from people who are trying to figure out how to defraud Google's advertisers.

If you have to ask the question, then you are not clever enough to understand the answer.

JDigital

2:10 pm on Feb 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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As far as I know, Google hasn't revealed how exactly it checks for fraudulent clicks. Needless to say, it's particularly good at it. Therefore, it's a bad idea to try and work out the limitations of Google's fraudulent click detection.

coool

2:15 pm on Feb 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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wow!
i only want build a adcenter as good as google
for this i want understand that how google understand that a web master is a fraudulent!
i want us google adsense system for my adcenter
how many method exist for detect that a web master is a fraudulent?
i guess that google use IP & Proxy & coki
please help me to pther method
tanx

angelos

2:28 pm on Feb 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Google is omnipresent and all-seeing :)
The analysis of data received by some criteria (which are generally known, btw) may allow to conclude that this number of clicks on the ads were made not for the purpose the advertiser expected.

21_blue

2:33 pm on Feb 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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coool wrote:
i only want build a adcenter as good as google

Wow! You've joined WW today and already are wanting to build an adcentre as good as Google. What a chuckle.

Although your posts are obviously either trolling or a fraudster doing research, I'm happy to venture what I think is the best way to detect click fraud: neural networks. You don't need to program them - they learn how to detect fraud very efficiently, and neither they nor their computer operators/programmers can explain how they do it.

In case you are thinking that you can beat neural networks, I recall in the early 90s, in the UK, the BBC pitted a neural network against a brain surgeon in diagnosing brain scans. The neural network won. And I think they have improved since then.

But I am happy to tell you the only way to defeat neural networks. You need a James-Bond-film-style electronic pulse from outer space that wipes out all Google's datacentres running those neural networks. Sadly, that will also mean you won't get paid for your fraudulent clicks.

Good luck with your life of crime.

coool

3:08 pm on Feb 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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if the methods is serious please send to me methods with email
my mail is:rss.xml2@yahoo.com
tanx

Lobo

3:18 pm on Feb 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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That's a joke right? well I'm laughing anyway .. so it must be ;)

GoldenHammer

3:26 pm on Feb 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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[ .... if the methods is serious please send to me methods with email .....]

My best advice is, if anyone know that, he/ she will not tell you. Even one day by chance you know anything about it, it will be already different from want you have learnt.

Don't run yourself into the trap created by your own, it is a waste of your effort and time, and eventually you would get banned by Google life time.

Trust me, spend your effort on building a contents rich and valuable website.

21_blue

3:31 pm on Feb 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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coool wrote:
if the methods is serious please send to me methods with email

Unfortunately, I don't know the method used to build a James-Bond-film-style laser pulse from space to knock out Google's datacenters.

Thanks for the entertainment. This thread is soooo funny. I haven't had this much of a laugh since... oh... since this morning.

BillyS

3:53 pm on Feb 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Google's got a lot of data and Adsense is their bread and butter money making machine. My guess is that the overall priority for the entire company is:

1. - Good SERPS
2. - Detecting Adsense Fraud

It might even be the other way around. I've accidently clicked ads on my site a total of three times in 2.5 years. I report it each time. The last time it happened was about 9 months ago (I was clicking around too fast and a window popped up in front of another window I was trying to click.)

As a publisher, I don't even click Adsense ads anymore (anywhere). If I see something I like, I just copy the link out of the ad without clicking on it.

Am I paranoid? Maybe. Or maybe I think Google is VERY good at detecting fraud and I've got too much to lose to even think about playing that game.