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12:08 pm on Jan 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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There are quite a few site that sell ready adsense sites that claim to have 15000 pages on a variety of topics, has anyone bought those site and make money with them?
12:18 pm on Jan 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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yep they work and you can earn loads from them
12:28 pm on Jan 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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looks like ncw164x is trying to get rid of btkhoo (OP) and loose him/her account :)
Don't buy those, apply common sense first, not a bad idea in general, not just for AdSense!
12:33 pm on Jan 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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do a search at google for ready adsense sites there's lots listed

no I am not trying to get the account closed, its not the site what is important its how what you do with it

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They may work but for the first few "publishers". It will fail in the long term because with each sale you will have an instant clone. You know what that means: duplicate content = falling deep down in SE results.

Think that if it wouln't be more profitable for them to sell the content, they wouldn't even be willing to duplicate the content. They choose selling because they know that content duplicated hundreds of times worth nothing in SE world.

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My question would be "If they are making money, or capable of making money why sell them"?

I can understand selling a site that makes money if you no longer want to keep updating it, and a few other reasons. If there is minimum upkeep, and the site is making money I really can't see why anyone would sell.

I did buy a bunch of pre-made, previously un-hosted sites a while back, and got one of them hosted. By the time I'd purchased a domain, paid the hosting charges I am well out of pocket. I've made 24c to date!

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If you promote it, fill it with unique content and get traffic, then yes you could make money.

Consider it a CMS or pre-fab template. It has no inherrent value without your added content, promotion and traffic.

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I think it is still worthwhile if we just regard it as paying someone to creat the web sites for us as some of those site for sale consist of about 150 web sites with 15000 pages and the asking price range from $9.99 to $99.9 , it is rather cheap way of starting 150 sites immediately and if we modify it enough, we may just escape the google penalty on duplicate content. To creat 15000 pages by oneself surely need a lot of effort and time on research as we may not be familiar on many topics
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15,000 pages for $10 to $100?
Nonsense.
When you pay peanuts, do not be surprised to get monkeys!
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I bought one about six months ago, I've alnost done rewriting it.

I wanted a platform from which to work and had no intentions of sending straight to market. I would think that several thousand also bought it.

No mine doesn'y resemble the others in any way shape of form.

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I've looked at a few. Many even have them with domain name and webspace. Do a quick search in google for any page out of the 15,000 - no where. You are buying content - much of which is available free out there anyway!

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rewriting it...mine doesn'y resemble the others in any way shape of form

So what did you pay for exactly, a platform?
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If I write a full page of content it takes me at least a day. First of all, the content has to deal with relevant stuff and second it has to be original, so no clones or duplicates. It means I have to do research, take pictures, talk to people, do some reading, etc. You write it down and it's called content. At least, that was the idea until a few years ago. But then some smart folks invented the blog and now anyone able to cr*p on his keyboard claims to have content.

Anyways...
Don't know about you but if I work one day I expect to get at least $ 200,- for it or it won't cover for the rent, insurance, car, food, whatever. So, a reasonable price for a 15.000 page website would be about... eh... 3.000.000 bucks, as in 3 million bucks! So any $9,99 website, even if it has 10 pages, will very probably consist of duplicate "content". And duplicate content is against Adsense TOS. By running such a website you upset hardworking folks who invest time and money to play the game by the rules. So implying that you are thinking of running such a website will make a lot us angry.
Come on, write your own content. It's called working!

[edited by: engine at 4:58 pm (utc) on Jan. 30, 2006]

4:01 pm on Jan 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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sometime it pays to work smart
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if content can be bought for cheap price why bother to write ourself, we can't be expert in all field
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one page of content a day , it will take 41 years to creat 15000 pages, if it can be done in a day , why not, we are talking about making money with adsense here and not on pride of creating own original content.
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out of those 15000 "pages of content", how many will stick around on page 1-3 on google/yahoo for decent keywords and a decent period of time is also a question worth pondering over.

On the other hand, with 12 hours of solid work with a mind full of concentration if one could write just 3 nice articles daily, which would give us 1000+ pages in one year, how many of those nice bookmark-worthy articles would appear on page 1-3 of google/yahoo for extended periods of time (sometimes spanning years if the content was "evergreen") is another question that I would ponder on.

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ok, follow ncw164x's advice and go buy one (or 100)
come back and tell us 6 months later how much it pays.
You do not have to create websites in "all fields", hire someone to write for you if you insist on covering the whole spectrum of topics, ad yes, if your target is 15,000 pages of "usable" content, it will take years and years even if you outsource the job.

humblebeginnings, I agree with you but your logic is flawed in a thing or two:
a) Your producing one page a day does not mean others can't do better than that, you also forgot the amount of time it takes you to manage your site(s), post in forums, optimize and other work stuff that humblebeginnings do.
b) It's costing you $200 per page does not mean that its an industry standard or that it cannot be done at a much much lower cost by others..

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U can have your Account Terminated
if u are using thousands of pages of stolen content :

Scroll to the bottom of this page to read about 'Account Termination'.

[google.com...]

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Was there any mention of stealing content?
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Its not a case of working hard I do that anyway its a case of thinking smarter, you can't do everything so its easier to out source some of the work otherwise you won't have enough time with the amount of work involved in getting another new site up and running

If your happy having one or two sites and that's the most you want to maintain then great but you should never say anyone is lazy just because I don't bash letters on a keyboard all day to construct words on to a page.

I have chosen to do it another way and its not by using "stolen content" and it certainly is not in a way you would term being lazy, far from it, there is a lot of work involved and a lot of hours each day to keep what you have built maintained and earning money.

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btkhoo: "sometime it pays to work smart"
I fully agree with that, but I can't get rid of the idea this is fraud. If we're talking duplicate pages it is. No matter how smart, I detest fraud.

hobbs: I know others can produce pages faster and cheaper than I do. Perhaps a bit lazy myself? However, 15.000 pages for $ 9,99 surely is not a credible average for unique content:-)

ncw164x: I didn't mean to call you lazy cause I don't have any idea who you are and what you do. I was merely trying to say that I think it is a lazy attitude to try to make easy money by publishing 15.000 duplicated pages. I strongly believe that is against Adsense TOS. Or are you telling me these 15.000 pages are all unique content?

There was an other post a couple of days ago from a guy who was very upset that Google banned his account. He said to be 100% sure he did nothing wrong.
When I looked at his website I saw thousands of pages, filled with content duplicated from other websites. Are we talking about that kind of websites?

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humblebeginnings: i guess he's talking about buying "article packs" which are written once and sold thousands of times to justify the low selling price. So, it's "technically" not fraud, because you are paying for a legitimate service to a person who "agreed" to sell you something for whatever price, low or high doesnt matter (because the decision to sell at a low price was the sellers decision, and who are we to judge what the right price should be or whether the seller decided to sell it to thousands of webmasters?)....i would rather call it an ineffective mechanism to achieve success from the point of view of the buyer :)

Personally, I wouldnt pay 5 cents for articles that are resold anything more than ONCE.

Of course, if we're talking about stock photos, I might consider a non-exclusive license... but that's a different story....

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For the site that offered 15000 pages at 9.99 , the articles are actually free and can be obtained by anybody over the internet, I believe we can also compile that ourself but surely we can do it ourself in one day. The other one which is offered at 99.9 come with rss integrated. We are talking about buying content which is obtained legitimately, no element of stealing except the cheap price make one feel it is no longer worthwhlie preparing the content ourself, with buying of content, we will be able to have site with high paying key word in record speed in area which we are not competent to write
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No need to explain explain. Save it for google in few months from now..
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I wonder if you can be sure that those articles you buy are legal. If I would buy articles I think I would buy them on an individual level to make sure it was tailor made. If you buy 15,000 articles in one package, how do you know some of these articles weren't stolen from hard working forum members?
Since you don't bother to write them, I guess you are not going to read or check them all to make sure the material is legal. Aren't you taking a deliberate risk of violating copyrights if you buy 15,000 articles in one package? The fact that you pay for it doesn't mean it's legal. The fact that the seller says it's legal doesn't mean it is legal. How do you make sure you are dealing with legal material?

I am saying this because some of my own material is sold on the Internet as being legal content, but I never gave permission for that, it's simply theft!

But besides that, when I introduced the fraudulent aspect, I was referring to the Adsense program policies. I wonder how you will make sure these 15,000 articles are within the Adsense TOS. They sell ready-for-Adsense packages that include topics such as gambling and adult stuff!

And of course the Adsense program policies prohibit duplicate content. The question is; wat does that mean? Do they mean, two or more of the same pages/articles/pictures within one website/account, or do tey mean that it is not allowed to publish content that is not original and is merely a copy of other material that can be found on the Internet?

Perhaps this is one for ASA to jump in.
ASA, is it allowed to put Adsense code on pages that have content that is a copy of material that can be found elsewhere on the Internet?

Your help would be appreciated,

Kind regards,

H.

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Duplicate content is not against the Google TOS, stealing copyrighted material is.

There are many Private Label Rights membership sites out there that produce 3 or 4 sites a month with 20-30 original articles in each site. Nice sites, well designed, RSS feeds, well SEOd, the whole nine yards.

Problem is they may have 500 or more members so there is a possibility of 500 identical sites.

Since Jagger these sites have been hit extra hard, many have been stripped from the Google index by their much tougher dup filter.

If you purchase PLR articles (you have the right to do anything you want with them, even sign your name to them) these days you must re-write them or your wasting your time and your money. Even the membership sites themselves are advising their members to re-write since Jagger.

It's back to original content. can't beat it I'm afraid.

If you bought a package that contained 15,000 articles from eBay or an Adwords ad you would get virtually ZERO traffic to those pages from Google. Just one or two good original articles would out earn the entire 15,000 article pack.

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15000 pages for $10? Doesnt that in itself ring a few bells?

If you can immagine the kind of trouble that will land in with G then you really should read up more on how the SE's work.

Come on.

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Several of our articles ended up in those "free reprint" packs -- without us giving anyone permission to do so. Worse, they removed the author's name and name of publisher (duh!). I am not a fan of these so-called free reprint packages. For me, they're just a bunch of stolen articles packaged together.
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ASA, Id love to hear your take on this thread.

I expect _any_ of these content packages will get zero SE traffic. It's all duped content and useless for "real websites" IMHO.

Where I do think it would be excellent is for parked domains. I have hundreds of domains parked. I could put these "instant websites" up, provide content that the type in traffic might find useful and run my adsense on it. Even with a miniscule CTR, It would beat what I get for parking them, and IMHO give the surfer something better than a parking page to land on.

So my question for the Adsense Advisor:

Does using "canned" dupe content violate the TOS in any way?

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